Warhammer FB Mod

[Ploeperpengel]

no actually I just thought of it...... it hasnt started yet but I'd like to get a mod on it going.

Think this'll be quite a complicated thing you request. You should make it on maincreation. I don't have an idea how to do it but maybe someone knows.

 

[Talon500]

what we need to do is model it as rain then animate to fall like rain, skin it and lastly script and pack it!

 

[Ploeperpengel]

what we need to do is model it as rain then animate to fall like rain, skin it and lastly script and pack it!

Yes sounds like just a couple of weeks with 3Dmax. Really, Talon, it's too much asked here.

 

[Talon500]

maybe we could get a seperate team to do it....*shrugs*

 

[Rando]

If someone knows where to get Warhammerstyle Art for that apart from GW online please tell me.

Hi Ploe. For a good source for leaderhead art (non-GW) you could try the following:

http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Portraits.List

The site is www.nwvault.com. It is a site for Neverwinter Nights, the D&D RPG. There is a section for portraits and there are hundreds (thousands) of fantasy portraits. You can search by class/race. There are a number of different styles. Might be a good resource for leaderheads.

 

[Talon500]

actually Rando you have a great point Ploe i highly suggest that link!

 

[seZereth]

ABOUT RELIGION:
What about having religions like: War, Culture, Technologie,... so a race always has its specific gods, but the aspect they worship him and thus the units/boni it gives to them is depending on the aspect (speak religion... pseak War, Culture...) i tihnk J wanted to do it the other way roung, so one could choose which aspect to use, and the religions could be founded, But my idea is better no just joking, what do u think about it?

 

[Ploeperpengel]

ABOUT RELIGION:
What about having religions like: War, Culture, Technologie,... so a race always has its specific gods, but the aspect they worship him and thus the units/boni it gives to them is depending on the aspect (speak religion... pseak War, Culture...) i tihnk J wanted to do it the other way roung, so one could choose which aspect to use, and the religions could be founded, But my idea is better no just joking, what do u think about it?

Hm, I'd have problems with an orcgod for culture or technologie. Won't work for every religion that way I think. Maybe we should think about what each single religion is exactly to do first and then think about the way combining similar ones to a generic. Anyway I think this won't be part of the next patch. It's a complicated thing which needs more discussion. We need more people with knowledge about WH Background discussing here!

@Rando
Thx for the link. Hope there's something that satisfies me.

 

[Duke van Frost]

The best site for gfx on the net is definitely:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/

All professional 2D/3D artists! (though I don´t know about the copyright).


I really dislike the rain idea, seems to much to do for to less output and I don´t think it will add to the atmosphere.

I finished my siegeweaponsworkshop today, will add this in to give about 20%/25% bonus to building siegeweapons.

I personally do not dislike an Orc God worshipped for technology (I always loved the Bloodaxes in 40K most of all) but Culture?? OK, even greenskinz do have culture - they don´t have to worship gods for DaVinci´s Mona Lisa, but for cavepaintings and sacrifising gobbos or snotlings (jummy, snotlings - you gotta try 'em roasted with BBQ-sauce)

To bring it to a point I like the Idea abou technology, culture, war gods etc. better then the religion system we got now. But you all forgot maybe that we already have this in the civics where we have a religion branch. It could better be implemented there I think.

So I would stick with the idea of having every civ automatically discovering it´s gods with a given tech (but that would need real good balancing because I think a statereligion gives your civ a huge boost). But that way we would need more and I don´t really know if I like the idea that you can not spread your religion to others - and is it possible that a religion dislikes (Diplomacybonus) some others more than the rest (Orcs like chaos better than elves etc.) So we get certain constellations of factions, but than we need the factions to be nearly the same size (number of civs) and which civs (like the norse) are "neutral".

You see: religion is a really tough topic, and we need to think about this once again (or maybe I should just re-read what people wrote about it before here in the thread)

EDIT: you´re right Ploe, those gfx really s**k! If you don´t want to put out the next beta before the end of next week, I´ll redo all of those (that´s If you don´t want to do it, to get abreak from the .xmls)

 

[Ploeperpengel]

The best site for gfx on the net is definitely:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/

All professional 2D/3D artists! (though I don´t know about the copyright).

If it's posted in the web I say let's use it, basta! I'm tired of that legal crap. Let's credit it and that's it. same for pediaentries.

I really dislike the rain idea, seems to much to do for to less output and I don´t think it will add to the atmosphere.

I'd like the idea but we don't have the time for it.

I finished my siegeweaponsworkshop today, will add this in to give about 20%/25% bonus to building siegeweapons.

Very nice!

I personally do not dislike an Orc God worshipped for technology (I always loved the Bloodaxes in 40K most of all) but Culture?? OK, even greenskinz do have culture - they don´t have to worship gods for DaVinci´s Mona Lisa, but for cavepaintings and sacrifising gobbos or snotlings (jummy, snotlings - you gotta try 'em roasted with BBQ-sauce)

To bring it to a point I like the Idea abou technology, culture, war gods etc. better then the religion system we got now. But you all forgot maybe that we already have this in the civics where we have a religion branch. It could better be implemented there I think.

So I would stick with the idea of having every civ automatically discovering it´s gods with a given tech (but that would need real good balancing because I think a statereligion gives your civ a huge boost). But that way we would need more and I don´t really know if I like the idea that you can not spread your religion to others - and is it possible that a religion dislikes (Diplomacybonus) some others more than the rest (Orcs like chaos better than elves etc.) So we get certain constellations of factions, but than we need the factions to be nearly the same size (number of civs) and which civs (like the norse) are "neutral".

You see: religion is a really tough topic, and we need to think about this once again (or maybe I should just re-read what people wrote about it before here in the thread)

didn't forget the civics. For the next patch let's keep religion as is now. We will work on it afterwards. Religions should spread with missionaries normally as long they're religions which support that. We should decide that for religions individually(chaos and sigmar for certain, others maybe restricted to their own civ)

EDIT: you´re right Ploe, those gfx really s**k! If you don´t want to put out the next beta before the end of next week, I´ll redo all of those (that´s If you don´t want to do it, to get abreak from the .xmls)

Xml's not the prob cause it's just the artdefines. But I won't be able to search for pics until next week. So if you find any post screenies or links. That would make me happy

 

[J_Period]

kk, I'm ignoring what I've missed for now, but a quick expolanation is the least I can offer. The messed up RAM in my computer turns out not to be messed up ram, but a short in the motherboard, which screwed basically everything (my video card, my new ram, etc.) directly plugged in (pretty sparks ) the hard drive is intact (the files for the mod ar okey ) but I can't afford a new computer (at least one that's good enough for CIV) for a little while. I think in 3 weeks, I should have enough saved (2 paychecks). I'm going to upload my incomplete work in progress tommorow using my friend's computer.

In the mean while, you all can do what you want. Artwork needs doing, art_defines files are very useful. Once I've uploaded, matching techs and units to their icons would be very useful.

The python stuff that needs doing:
*Integrating mercenaries mod
*Spells
*Magic items
* Animosity
*Psychology
*Waaa'gh

again, I apologize for not posting sooner. I've been a little...upset over the loss of my computer.

 

[Ploeperpengel]

Damn I already thought you're away for good and took over temporarily. As you can see a patch's on the run. Can you take over the coordination again so that I can start new models or should I stay in position till you got yourself a new machine?
Man next time really find yourself a public access sooner!

Edit: and there he goes again

 

[woodelf]

Edit: and there he goes again

Take a deep breath and count to 10 or 100.

I feel your frustration and pain bub.

edit - no Hug smilie? Damn.

 

[Talon500]

Ok guys i took the liberty to find some leaderheads (You dont have to use them but if want them here they are)

Humans:
(Good)

(Evil)

Orcs:

Elves:

NOw of course credit goes out to the artists and also a side note you guys dont have to use them and if you do you can change their alignment. (Ill go get some more later.)

 

[Talon500]

Here are some more

 

[Sisonpyh]

Those are of Warcraft origin. Please, please do not use those.

 

[seZereth]

Nice to see you J

About magic.
I know know how to add new missions on the SDK, so we dan't have to use this horrible hack to cast spells. I think that the best way to do it is to keep it the same as now, have wizards carry spell books. However, instead of using prootions to cast spells, we should be able to use the SDK. This means that the AI can be taught to use it as well.
What do you think? its more work but a lot neater.

I say: DO it
I think with all the coordination, we have some time, this will be a huge step forward olleus, so take it on.

 

[Duke van Frost]

I got nothing against modifying the SDK. If you say its a lot neater then I believe you Olleus (that´s because you´re the programmer, not me). And I think We will eventually have to modify the SDK in the future one way or another.

So I agree with seZ: Do it


And... It´s good to be hearing from you J! Sorry about your messed up machine.

But one question comes to mind:
Does some body know the sentence "Elvis has left the building."

EDIT: those new files would be good, especially because of the revamped techtree, but I think we´ll have to see if we can use this for the next beta

 

[Ploeperpengel]

Yes let's stick to our work on the files for the next beta. We may also be able to pillage the upload J is hopefully going to do for everything that won't cause conflicts. In general I suggest we try integrating as much as possible if it makes sense but otherwise use the beta as base to work on not the WIP from J.
Hopefully it will make clear what direction JP was going to take as soon we can dl it.

@Talon
Some of the pics are nice but WH Darkelves aren't black and the Warcraft elves won't serve either. Continue to post screenies though. I might use some of those already there but need more to choose from. This way also others can give comments and may take part in the decisions.

 

[Talon500]

ok ploep will do

oh heres a good one!