Was 9/11 genocide ?

[I am the Future]

9/11 was performed by our goverment in order to gain money. They got billions of doallrs in insurance and stocks. Plus it gave them reason to attack Afganastan collecting major oil fields. The goverment created the 9/11 attacks. It wasn't Genocide, it was murder for profit.

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[Babbler]

It was mass murder; but not genocide. It was too small and too short to be a genocide.

 

[The Yankee]

Of course not, the towers themselves were more the target than the actual people. Had they been trying to kill the maximum number of people there's no way they would have sent a plane at the Pentagon. The purpose was to target icons representing American power and to make sure everyone on earth knew that they could hit us. The people were merely collateral damage.

The people were also those of every stripe, nationality, religion, race, rich, poor, gay, straight, you name it.

 

[Irish Caesar]

9/11 was performed by our goverment in order to gain money. They got billions of doallrs in insurance and stocks. Plus it gave them reason to attack Afganastan collecting major oil fields. The goverment created the 9/11 attacks. It wasn't Genocide, it was murder for profit.

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Loose Change can be fun to watch...

But I don't know of any oil fields in Afghanistan.

 

[The Yankee]

The whole oil and Afghanistan argument is for a pipeline that would go to Pakistan though Afghanistan from the Caspian or somewhere thereabouts.

 

[Irish Caesar]

Oh.

Okay.

Just as stupid, but slightly more legitimate.

 

[I am the Future]

Loose Change can be fun to watch...

Yeah, as soon as I posted that I started watching it again, but my internet hates me tonight so it is going slow.

 

[Irish Caesar]

Have you read the criticisms of it?

 

[MobBoss]

Tell that to the American Indians.

I would hardly call what was done to the American Indians an attempt at genocide. If it had truly been coordinated and done, nary a person with Indian blood would be alive today, considering the differences in technology and numbers.

 

[superisis]

I would hardly call what was done to the American Indians an attempt at genocide. If it had truly been coordinated and done, nary a person with Indian blood would be alive today, considering the differences in technology and numbers.

this to the quoted post and others. Why would you clump all the native americans together? There are several tribes that were killed off as a direct effect of American (or European, as it were) conquest. Does anyone out there have any Mohican friends out there? Didn't think so. What about the Islands that colombus first discovered in the Caribbean? No indians left. To claim that that isn't genocide would be the same as claiming that the Nazis didn't attempt genocide against Jews, because they didn't target arabs.

 

[MobBoss]

this to the quoted post and others. Why would you clump all the native americans together? There are several tribes that were killed off as a direct effect of American (or European, as it were) conquest. Does anyone out there have any Mohican friends out there? Didn't think so. What about the Islands that colombus first discovered in the Caribbean? No indians left. To claim that that isn't genocide would be the same as claiming that the Nazis didn't attempt genocide against Jews, because they didn't target arabs.

First of all, where the Mohicans killed off only by the Europeans or did other Indian tribes have a hand in it as well? As for genocide, isnt it the act of trying to wipe out a race of people, not just a tribe? I humbly sumbit that the differences between Mohicans and Iroquis (or other Indian tribes) to be minimal when compared to the differences between Jews and Arabs.

 

[Red Stranger]

Tell that to the American Indians.

The fact that I can tell something to an American Indian means that there was no genocide by your definition. If there was, there would be no American Indians for me to tell it to.

How could it be a genocide if the victims were indiscriminantly targeted?

They were not indiscriminately targetted. They were Americans!

Yeah, as soon as I posted that I started watching it again, but my internet hates me tonight so it is going slow.

Your internet hates you because it was invented by Americans. It's no good when you're making outrageous claims like the US planned 911.

 

[Red Stranger]

The people were also those of every stripe, nationality, religion, race, rich, poor, gay, straight, you name it.

But they were Americans!!! The terrorists targetted Americans in their attempt for genocide.

 

[Stylesjl]

9/11 was nowhere near a genocide. They killed many people who happened to be in the towers at the time with no regards to any race, culture, religio, etc

They also killed foreign citizens, other muslims, sympathesisers, etc in the attacks it was nowhere near a genocide just an indiscrimante mass murder

 

[Taliesin]

This is like saying that bombing Iraqi cities was genocide. The Americans obviously made sure they were targeting Iraqis and not Persians, so under your definition they committed much worse genocide than al-Qaeda.

Honestly, use words for what they mean, lest they lose that meaning.

 

[Red Stranger]

This is like saying that bombing Iraqi cities was genocide. The Americans obviously made sure they were targeting Iraqis and not Persians, so under your definition they committed much worse genocide than al-Qaeda.

Honestly, use words for what they mean, lest they lose that meaning.

We were bombing terrorists. We gave ample warning about our bombings and allowed time for the innocents to leave. If they stayed, they were either terrorists trying to defend their fortress, or sympathizers who will feed the terrorists. During the 911 genocide, the terrorists never gave us any warning about their attack.

 

[Taliesin]

You bombed Baghdad without warning. Civilians died. They were all Iraqis. Genocide, by your lights.

 

[Stylesjl]

We were bombing terrorists. We gave ample warning about our bombings and allowed time for the innocents to leave. If they stayed, they were either terrorists trying to defend their fortress, or sympathizers who will feed the terrorists. During the 911 genocide, the terrorists never gave us any warning about their attack.

No, civillians were being bombed. The civillians were often ordered by the Iraqi government to stay or couldn't leave due to congestion, other refuges being bombed, etc

 

[Verbose]

It's kind of immaterial as the WTC wasn't targeted because it was full of Americans.
It was targeted because it was American, a symbolic landmark right smack in the middle of the US homeland.

Killing a lof of people was an objective but it wasn't the main objective. I descending order it would seem to be:
1) hit symbolic buildings representing US power.
2) kill a bunch of people in order to beget terror; it's what terrorism aims for.

And it would have worked fine even if there had been NO Americans in the WTC (there were people of pretty much every nationality imgainable working there; international capitalism).

The point was to hit the US on its home turf, to show it up as "incapable" of defnding itself from the al-Q. Which again would be sufficient to instill fear in the American public, i.e. more terror, even if no Americans got killed.

 

[Red Stranger]

If they just wanted to attack an American symbol, they would've gone for the Statue of Liberty, since it was a closer target from the flight path. Lady Liberty represent our way of life much better than the WTC.