It's a state-by-state issue. Here in Texas, you do not register, but just choose your primary. Anyway, since he ran in 2008, that gave centrists and liberals for Paul plenty of time to change their registration leading up to 2012.
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Oh joy.
Maybe it's time for me to start looking for another place for casual conversations.
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There's a whole science behind this. Chiefly, there's the issue of FPTP, which opens up a can of worms with issues like "lesser of two evils" and "wasted votes". Voting Paul is a big gamble and Obama is a much safer choice for centrists and liberals.
Up here in Canada, this is causing the right to get in our government even though the majority of people do not want them in power.
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Why would "liberals and centrists" vote for Paul over Obama?Gary Johnson is far more fringe than Ron Paul.
If my memory serves, numerous polls suggested a lead for Paul versus Obama among the independents.
I'd imagine one has to be a registered Republican to vote in the primaries right?
While Paul wasn't close to clinching the nomination, there were numerous reported incidents of fraud in the primaries, which appear to be done to prevent Paul from gaining momentum. Maine came to the top of my head. Here's a video from MSNBC.
And if my memory serves, the party bosses also worked against Ron Paul in the GOP convention. Here's a link. It's true that Paul was trying to hijack the party with his strategy but he was playing by the rules until they changed it in the last minute
What stuck me is that the GOP would actually go out of the way to do all this.
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This is just my biased opinion of course...
Obama's principle appeal to his supporters is that he's smart, pro-environmentalism, anti-imperalism, no-nonsense, etc, etc.
Ron Paul, in many ways, is not dissimilar to Obama. And with Obama not living up to his promise, he's about the only other politician (along with Gary Johnson) with this lineup of characteristics.
Many would say Paul's a loon with his policies but one thing that is important to note is that a lot of those what people call "liberals" and "centrists" tend to value trust more than particular political ideologies. Another big plus with Paul is that he's not part of the GOP status quo and is far away from the crazies (i.e. social conservatives).
At least up here in Canada, there seems to be a lot of support for Paul and Obamania's pretty much over.
Zack
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What? I don't think I have ever heard Obama described as anti-imperialist or no-nonsense. Or Ron Paul, for that matter.
For every person Paul would bring in, he would lose two more. There's no reason to believe he would do well at all in a general election.
Arresting them hardly seems necessary.
Hey, we just got rid of Rob Anders in my riding.
No, there really is not. The majority of Canadians have never heard of Ron Paul, the majority of Canadians who have heard of him thinks he's a nut.
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You have to bring them to the crosses first. They wouldn't go there on their own, you know. Well, most of them wouldn't.
So apparently you are in favor of armed bandits roaming the American countryside dishing out "frontier justice" as they see fit?
I think the government handled this situation very tactfully and I'm glad the federal agents decided to be the better people and de-escalate this situation without violence. Because we all know this so-called "militia" wasn't going end this peacefully. Something tells me they were just itching for a chance to shoot at those "gubbermant thugs".
Still preserved in your own post...
I suppose moderators can see all edits a particular posts has anyway.
Re Ron Paul, i only saw a few youtube videos of his speeches/talks/primary/other, and it seems that there was quite the nasty smearing campaign against him going on at the time. I mean he does not seem to be an idiot (let alone when compared to the clown association in the primaries of his party, or the democrat ones of past).
I don't see why he supposedly was a "fringe" candidate. What makes one a mainstream candidate? Some airheads on tv channels? Cause from what i see R. Paul looks and sounds far less insane than H.Clinton, or that instant dementia Biden person.
I don't see why he supposedly was a "fringe" candidate. What makes one a mainstream candidate? Some airheads on tv channels? Cause from what i see R. Paul looks and sounds far less insane than H.Clinton, or that instant dementia Biden person.
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Pretty much. The definition of liberty is not allowing a central authority, be it a king, or a Communist Party, or a fascist leader, or a kernel of liberal elites empowered by a maze of bureaucratic law to rule over the people.
You see this isn't an intellectual debate, its an existential showdown between freemen and their would be enslavers. Its tribal. And you are with us or against us.
Yup, you get to eat the seed corn while we starve next decade.
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That's more the definition of anarchy, with a side order of banditry, a dash of might-makes-right and so forth.