Well, tonight I saw the new Superman Movie....

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It was so-so. I think they could have done a whole lot more with it than they did. However, the story they choose was just too close to the original and 2nd movie. Way too close.

The movie was far too long also, with long periods of scenery flying by with supermans theme music cued.

The guy sitting a seat away from us fell alseep and started snoring. That was about the pace of it.

There were some very nice special effects. But there were not enough of them to fill in the long gaps.

I think about a third of the movie could have been edited out and it would still be basically the same movie.

Bottom line: rental. At the most see it during matinee hours so you dont pay full price. I saw it with my wife at 4:30 on a Friday afternoon and the theater was only about half full.
 
What's funny is that the new Batman Begins retold the origin story (much like I assume this movie did for Superman), but was a lot of fun. Mainly because they changed the origin story.

Speaking of rentals, we got Underworld Evolution last night, and it was fun. I have a feeling it would have been better in the theatre, because it was a lot of action scenes. The story was pretty good, actually, and not what I expected. I really liked how they slipped in facts about the mythology, to differentiate these vampires from things like the Blade vampires.
 
I haven't seen Superman Returns yet. But I have confidence it will at least be good, after seeing the absolutely brilliant Batman Begins.
 
Batman Begins was the best comic book movie ever.

Superman? Get real. Not even exciting, considering that he's bullet proof, STD proof, Death proof, etc.
 
Dawgphood001 said:
Batman Begins was the best comic book movie ever.

Superman? Get real. Not even exciting, considering that he's bullet proof, STD proof, Death proof, etc.
Did ya know, when superman was first invented, he was simply fast, strong, and could leap up to an eighth of a mile. Now he's death proof, BOR-ING!:sleep: Where's the conflict in that? It's kinda like watching Jesus punch out Satan.
 
puglover said:
I haven't seen Superman Returns yet. But I have confidence it will at least be good, after seeing the absolutely brilliant Batman Begins.

Two different movies, two different directors. Batma Begins was far and away a much better movie than Superman Returns for the simple fact that it was different the the batman movies previous to it. Superman Returns is an amalgamation of the first two superman movies - Lex Luthor gets some kryptonite and kicks superman around with it as it saps away his powers. Sound familiar? It should.

The least they could have done is had a different villian. I mean crap - Lex Luthor isnt that interesting to begin with..and now he has been the villian in three movies.....why couldnt they have done Brainiac or Bizzaro (wow, Bizzaro would have been pretty interesting now that I think about it). Or at least anyone one on this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemies_of_Superman

The List

Lex Luthor: Superman's most well-known enemy. Pre-Crisis, Luthor was a rogue scientific genius with a personal vendetta against Superman, using his scientific prowess to destroy the Man of Steel by any means possible. Post-Crisis, Luthor is portrayed as a powerful but corrupt CEO of a conglomerate called LexCorp, but still has the same hatred of Superman. Recently, his public downfall has resulted in him returning more to his pre-Crisis persona. Actors portraying Lex have included Gene Hackman, John Shea, Clancy Brown, Michael Rosenbaum and Kevin Spacey.

Darkseid: A cruel and merciless alien who rules the planet Apokolips and only deals with Superman when it benefits his own agenda. Not originally created as a Superman villain, but by Jack Kirby for his New Gods series.

Bizarro: An imperfect duplicate of Superman. Pre-Crisis, Bizarro was created by an imperfect duplicator ray; post-Crisis, he originally was a failed experiment of Lex Luthor's. More recently, a newer version similar to the pre-Crisis version was reintroduced.

Metallo: A cyborg criminal who prefers using kryptonite as his power source, which makes him a deadly threat to Superman.

Mongul: An alien tyrant, notable as one of the few villains to be as strong as Superman. Mongul aided the Cyborg Superman in his attempt to turn Earth into a new Warworld.

Mr. Mxyzptlk: A being from the fifth dimension with magical powers who delights in tormenting Superman and traditionally could only be made to return to his native dimension by being made to say or spell his own name backwards.

Brainiac: An alien scientist from the planet Colu, intent on conquring Earth; pre-Crisis, Brainiac was portrayed as being an android. Post-Crisis, he was portrayed as a circus mentalist named Milton Fine who was possessed by a Coluan intelligence. During The Doomsday Wars storyline, however, Fine's body was destroyed and Brainiac once more inhabited a robotic body.

Phantom Zone criminals: Pre-Crisis, these were Kryptonian criminals imprisoned in a dimension called the "Phantom Zone", in which they only existed in a ghostlike form; this allowed them to survive the destruction of Krypton. Various such criminals would sometimes escape and attack Superman.

General Zod: Pre-Crisis, Zod was one of the main Phantom Zone criminals that fought with Superman. Post-Crisis, Zod was first depicted as a Phantom Zone criminal that Superman encountered in an alternate dimension; eventually, this Zod was killed by Superman with kryptonite. A second version of Zod was later introduced as a product of Soviet genetic engineering, surgically altered to mimic Superman. A third version, wearing black armor, was introduced as a Phantom Zone criminal.

Parasite: A janitor (Maxwell Jensen pre-Crisis; Rudy Jones post-Crisis) who had been mutated into a super-powered man who could absorb the powers, strength, and memories of any organic being, and wanted Superman's power for himself.

The Prankster: A villain who uses various practical jokes as a motif in his crimes. His real name is Oswald Loomis.

Terra-Man: Pre-Crisis, a cowboy-dressed villain who uses various high-tech weapons digusised as those of the American Old West.

Intergang: A nationwide organized crime syndicate armed with weapons supplied in part by Darkseid.

Doomsday: A mindless, impossibly powerful, raging monster that killed Superman during the Death of Superman storyline. During the Last Laugh storyline, a "jokerized" Doomsday that had been reengineered with changes from Superman's DNA attained intelligence; Darkseid and Luthor apparently had a deal to make clones of Doomsday. A version of Doomsday seen recently attained more than just the ability to talk, but the ability to reason and experience emotion, which ultimately turned him from an evil monster to a hero that saved Superman in the present and in an alternate future.

Imperiex: An all-powerful force of nature whose purpose is destroying galaxies. Eventually, Superman, Steel, and Darkseid stopped Imperiex by using Doomsday as an ally, along with a powerful weapon called the Entropy Aegis.

Toyman: An insane criminal who uses special equipment and weapons based on toys.

The Cyborg Superman: A reanimated astronaut cyborg who briefly impersonated Superman after his death, and also destroyed Green Lantern Hal Jordan's home of Coast City.

Effron the Sorcerer: A sorcerer who came from the magic kingdom of Veliathan and controlled a faceless puppet army.

Gog: A human from the future who masters time travel, and hates Superman for allowing his parents to die.

Preus : Formerly a law enforcement officer from the bottle city of Kandor, he escaped the city and hunts Superman.

Ultraman: An evil counterpart of Superman from an alternate Earth, Ultraman possesses powers similar to Superman's. Post-Crisis, Ultraman's power source is through exposure to Anti-Kryptonite instead of his Earth's yellow sun. Ultraman is a member of the Crime Syndicate of America, a villainous version of the Justice League indigenous to his universe.

The Kryptonite Man: Pre-Crisis, a criminal with space-acquired kryptonite radiation powers; post-crisis, similar but originated as a clone of Superman or in an experiment with kryptonite.

Livewire: A woman who can control electricity. She first appeared in the animated series, and has recently been added into the comics.
 
According to my comic-inclined friend, the superman logo on his chest is too small.

I despair.

Am propably not going to see this film, I'm more looking forward to Spiderman 3, who's trailer looks brilliant!
 
The Superman I grew up is from Superman: The Animated Series which aired in the late 90s. Watching the Superman movies after watching this cartoon was a huge letdown. The movies were way more cartoony then the cartoon was. In the cartoon Luthor was a shrewd buisnessman whose evil schemes were subtle and behind the scenes. Luthor in the movies was less of a villian and more of a comedian. Batman Begins got things right, serious, exciting and fun all at the same time, just like the Batman and Superman cartoons I learned to love superheroes with.
 
just saw it today. Wasn't all that good IMO, and the actress who played Louis Lane wasn't that great.

Spoiler the movie :
What the hell was with that piano! what kind of bodyguard sits down and starts playing next to someone he's watching!

I didn't see the previous movie(s), and was a bit lost as to why some things were going on.

Overall, the writing was really, really bad. Every line was either cheesy or cliche. It doesn't help when you know the outcome anyway. Everything was so convenient too. Need to send a fax? just have a guy sit down and play the piano. Some guy just return after 5 years? Let's ask him questions about Superman using pronouns. And Clark always happens to be in the room and listening to Louis when he needs to be.

The crystals were stupid. A single piece (like in the model city) causes immense blackouts and a huge crystal to form? Yet superman can scoop up the one large chunk and all of it's gone without reinforcing the crumbling city? And A single icy breath can put out a fire that somehow never spread outside the trenches?

Lex was also just to evil. It looked okay at the beginning, where he looked to at least have good intentions and want to help humanity, but afterwards when he was fine with billions dying (as opposed to putting his island in say, the middle, of the ocean), he was way too fictional.
 
ybbor said:
the actress who played Louis Lane wasn't that great.

:lol: Superman is gay after all.
 
When I read up on the plot for superman returns, I thought it was a joke.

Consequently the movie was quite good since I had such low expectations.
 
Its not really a spoiler since reviewers mention it in thier reviews

Spoiler :
Lex Luthor wants to create a new continent in the ocean and flood the existing landmasses, thus controlling a lot of needed real estate.
 
Drool4Res-pect said:
Did ya know, when superman was first invented, he was simply fast, strong, and could leap up to an eighth of a mile. Now he's death proof, BOR-ING!:sleep: Where's the conflict in that? It's kinda like watching Jesus punch out Satan.
You just gotta look a little harder.

I never watched Lois & Clark much, but I found one of their episodes actually interesting. Some technological gizmo deprives Superman of his powers--and gives them to Lois! For one episode, she's the superhero.

Aside from having to come up with a costume and a moniker (Ultragirl in this case) she discovers the most painful part of her newfound powers--at every moment, of every day, her super hearing picks up cries for help coming from everywhere. But for all her power, she can only be in one place at one time.

All those people she couldn't help--at the end of the episode, she was actually happy to be back to normal. And at the same time she understood Clark a lot better.
 
Damnit, I want a movie with the Green Lantern and Flash in it!
 
JtheJackal said:
Its not really a spoiler since reviewers mention it in thier reviews

Spoiler :
Lex Luthor wants to create a new continent in the ocean and flood the existing landmasses, thus controlling a lot of needed real estate.


but it should be noted that the first half of the movie progresses without realing knowing the plot, I wouldn't give it away.
 
It was confusing in the begining, since Supoerman returns and you don't know what was happening before that (if you don't know the Superman plot) but I actually thought it was good. Better than what I thought, actually.
 
JtheJackal said:
The Superman I grew up is from Superman: The Animated Series which aired in the late 90s. Watching the Superman movies after watching this cartoon was a huge letdown. The movies were way more cartoony then the cartoon was. In the cartoon Luthor was a shrewd buisnessman whose evil schemes were subtle and behind the scenes. Luthor in the movies was less of a villian and more of a comedian. Batman Begins got things right, serious, exciting and fun all at the same time, just like the Batman and Superman cartoons I learned to love superheroes with.

I'm quite a bit older than that - but I agree that the cartoons were pretty good. I quite liked Batman Beyond. And Luthor was a rather clever villain in the comics and the cartoons.
 
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