What 10 Civilizations will be in Beyond the Sword?

[Joebasalt13]

-Portugal
-Netherlands
-Sioux
-Babylon
-Maya
-Canada
-Hittite
-Sumeryan
-Byzantine
-Poland

Need, Canada and the Maya those are the two I am hoping most for.

 

[redifederal]

The vatican would be a good civ choice especially with the religous aspect that has been added.

 

[snipperrabbit!!]

Vatican suck balls ! I think there will be an Apostolic Palace for each seven religion. Upon completion of apostolic palace of your state religion, you will have population (maybe 60% World pop with access to state religion) and diplomatic goal ( share state religion, vote for us to lead state religion, engage crusade with us against the unfaithfull ) to achieve a diplomatico-religious victory.

 

[Corporal P]

I wish that Siam could make it to one of the ten CIVs, but in reality it is unlikely for many reasons.

-Between Khmer and Siam, the first was older considering the timeline moreover Khmer culture was more influential during its hight. Unless, Firaxis emphasizes the modern day timeline which Siam or Thailand as we know today has more influence in the region than Khmer or Cambodia today. And the fact that Siam throughout its history survived the onslaught of western colonization might prove that it was one of the major players in SE Asia, which could contribute to its place in the game among the other 10 CIVs.

-In order to make the leaderhead of Siam, Firaxis would have to ask for permission from the goverment of Thailand who acts on behalf of the king which unlikely that they would be given the permission. And besides, Firaxis wouldn't go that length just to add one CIV to the game.

Therefore, it is unlikely to see Siam in the game.

 

[BorgeoisBuffoon]

I'll say what I said in the other topic: there have been 34 civs playable over the various incarnation of the games, perhaps they'll all be back (the four we know of already, Byzantium, Hatti, Iroquois, Mayans, Austria, Sumer). The fact the Sioux are returning really makes me think this way, as well as a lot of the ooold junk files based on Sumer and Byzantium (even then, don't forget a little icon of Sitting Bull was amongst these files...)

 

[ChrTh]

I would love to see the Republic of Venice, but I don't see it happening. Polynesia is my second choice.

BTW, Wonders have never (as far as I know) been a determining factor for Civilization inclusion.

 

[Fideel]

New civs
- Dutch (confirmed)
- Portuguese (confirmed)
- Byzantine
- Babylon (confirmed)
- Israel
- Ethiopia
- Khmer or Siam/Thai
- Polynesians
- Native Americans
- Maya

New leaders
new civs:
- William of Orange (Dutch)
- Hendrick the Navigator (Portuguese)
- Justinian I (Byzantine)
- Hammurabi (Babylonians)
- David or Solomon (Israel)
- Makeda aka Queen of Sheba (Ethiopia)
- Jayavarman II (Khmer)
- Hotu Matu'a, legendary first king of Easter island (Polynesians)
- Hiawatha or Sitting Bull or Little Crow (Native Americans)
- Smoke Jaguar (Maya)
existing civs
- Abraham Lincoln (America)
- Charlemagne (French)
- Otto I or Frederick Barbarossa (German)
- Charles I or Philip II (Spain)
- Timur Lenk/Tamerlane (Persia)
- Yongle (China)

maybe there is a possibilty for an Italian civ in stead of Israel, Ethiopia, Polynesia or Khmer ...
maybe Venice, with Enrico Dandolo as leader
maybe the Papal States with pope Urban II as leader.
maybe Italy with Cavour, Garibaldi or Victor Emmanuel as a leader

 

[Kietharr]

Portugal
Netherlands
Babylon
Sioux
And the ones I'm rooting for:
Aksum (Ethiopia)
Israel
Iraquois
Maya
Byzantines
Khmer

Second choices:
Poland
Apache
Phoenicians (probably misspelled)
Hitties
Huns (Really more of a 3rd choice, not really a distinct civilization, they have just about the same culture as Mongolia until they begin clashing with Rome)

 

[TheArchduke]

If the old Poll at Firaxis.Com is any clue, I guess we see Austria in some sort.

Byzantine striked me as unnecessary, but was in CIV III.

Iroquis are a valid choice, Sioux not really.

Khmer, a big meh on that.

Polynesians, aw come on, CTP was crazy enough with out of the way Civs.

 

[snipperrabbit!!]

No, the third french leader will be Charles de Gaulle.

I will prefer Menelik as ethiopian leader. IMO, Khmer have better chance than Siam. Sitting Bull will lead Native americans empire. I think Pacal will be up to lead the mayans.

 

[LucyDuke]

I expect they'll rehash civs from old versions of civ. That means:

Sumeria
Portugal
Hittite
Maya
Byzantium
Holland
Babylon
Iroquois

from Civ3, and if there are any from Ciw2 or Civ1 that are still missing.

(I realize that the names are inconsistent.)

 

[Julian Delphiki]

New civs

- Timur Lenk/Tamerlane (Persia)

Right..

(wiki)

"Timur's legacy is a mixed one, for while Central Asia blossomed, some say even peaked, under his reign, other places such as Baghdad, Damascus, Delhi and other Arab, Persian, Indian and Turkic cities were sacked and destroyed, and many thousands of people were slaughtered brutally. Thus, while Timur remains a hero of sorts in Central Asia, he is vilified by many in Arab, Persian and Indian societies."


Lets make Alexander Indian leader!

 

[Polietileno]

Civs:

Maya - Smoke-Jaguar
Byzantine - Theodora
Sioux - Sitting Bull
Portugal - Henry the Navigator
Dutch - William the Orange
Ethiopia - Melenik II
Austria - Charles V
Israel - Salomon
Babylonia - Hammurabi
Poland - John Sobeski

Leaders:

America - Lincon
Incas - Pachakuti
France - Chalemange
Germany - Barbarrosa
Persia - Xerxes
Egypt - Medes

 

[Vynd]

In for sure:
Netherlands
Portugal
Babylon

Good bets:
Iriquois (or other Native North Americans)
Austria
Khmer
Ethiopia

Wild Guesses:
Polynesia
Timurid Empire
Brazil


I'm figuring that most or all of the new civilizations will be ones that were prominent in the Renaissance or later. It's "Beyond the Sword" after all. And I'd bet that they'll try to add civs from as many different regions as possible. Lastly, I disagree with the idea that they're just going to bring back all the civs that have been featured in earlier games. I think it's much more likely that they'll add some new ones, including at least a few they think would be unexpected. Hence Polynesia, Brazil, and the Timurids.

Oh, and I also suspect that they'll try to work in more female leaders, which is an argument in favor of Austria and Polynesia. And they'll probably try to stay away from too much controversy, or else I might have Israel on the list somewhere.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

I don't think they will add Israel, Poland or Sumeria.
And I am pretty sure there won't be Seleucids.

But somehow I am pretty sure the Byzantine Empire and the Maya will be in, and most likely Ethiopia.
Maybe even the Holy Roman Empire or the Frankish Empire will be in the game, so they can add Charlemagne as a leader without Germans and French quarreling over him.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

-In order to make the leaderhead of Siam, Firaxis would have to ask for permission from the goverment of Thailand who acts on behalf of the king which unlikely that they would be given the permission. And besides, Firaxis wouldn't go that length just to add one CIV to the game.

Therefore, it is unlikely to see Siam in the game.

I don't understand. Why do they need permission to make a Siamese LH? This is America, we don't need the permission of a foreign power to do anything!

Okay, I'm kidding, but you get my point. What are they going to do if Firaxis goes ahead and does it? Boycott Civ? Oh, yeah, that'll hurt 'em big time...

 

[Head Serf]

Well here are my bets for new leaders:

Portugal - Henrique the Navigator
Netherlands - William of Orange
Sioux - Sitting Bull
Babylon - Hammurabi
Byzantine - Basil the Bulgarslayer
Siam/Khmer - Jayavarman
Maya - Smoke-Jaguar
Iroquois - Hiawatha
Ethiopia - Menelik
Israel - Solomon

America - Abe Lincoln
Persia - Darius
Japan - Meiji
Arabia - Abu Bakr
Greece - Phillip
Rome - Trajan

 

[Gaius Octavius]

I don't think they'd have both Iroquois and Sioux in. Besides, I read on one of the screenshots that it is "Sitting Bull of the Native Americans," which tells me that they've lumped all the Indian tribes into one civ. I could be wrong.

 

[durfal]

New civs
- Dutch (confirmed)
- Portuguese (confirmed)
- Byzantine
- Babylon (confirmed)
- Israel
- Ethiopia
- Khmer or Siam/Thai
- Polynesians
- Native Americans
- Maya

New leaders
new civs:
- William of Orange (Dutch)
- Hendrick the Navigator (Portuguese)
- Justinian I (Byzantine)
- Hammurabi (Babylonians)
- David or Solomon (Israel)
- Makeda aka Queen of Sheba (Ethiopia)
- Jayavarman II (Khmer)
- Hotu Matu'a, legendary first king of Easter island (Polynesians)
- Hiawatha or Sitting Bull or Little Crow (Native Americans)
- Smoke Jaguar (Maya)
existing civs
- Abraham Lincoln (America)
- Charlemagne (French)
- Otto I or Frederick Barbarossa (German)
- Charles I or Philip II (Spain)
- Timur Lenk/Tamerlane (Persia)
- Yongle (China)

I think you have the civs right. Personaly I would switch the Byzantians with a Polish or Hungarian Civ but I think this will be the list too.
Leaders are almost all reasonable. My changes:
Native Americans: Sitting Bull (already confirmed)
Ethiopia/Abbesynia: Menelik II
Polynesia: Don't know who to choose they were spread over so many small islands and all had small kingdoms. Maybe a Hawaiian or a Maori Leader.
Maya: Pacal
Israel/Hebrew: David
The rest are probably correct too.
The 6 for existing civs:
US (known)
France : Charles de Gaulle (sort of confirmed, his picture is recognized on the firaxis site. The big background one on the main announcement page)
Spain : Phillip II
Greece ericles
Japan: Meiji
Arabs: Abu Bakr

 

[Julian Delphiki]

Well here are my bets for new leaders:
Byzantine - Basil the BulgarSlayer

That name gives me creeps everytime i see it. I wonder how much truth there is in that story where the name came... but he would be in good company in civ with other leaders already in, and Byzantine was thriving during his time.