What additional civilizations would you like to see in Civilization V

[PEACE!]

Dacian civilization pl0x

 

[cybrxkhan]

I would love to see Vietnam, but in civ 6 and only as long as it represents more than Ho Chi Minh and the Vietcong.

Yes please, no Uncle Ho. I think it's rather unfortunate but most non-Vietnamese (and even a lot of Vietnamese) don't know about Vietnamese history before the Vietnam War. Granted, much of it was just fighting off China (it's a huge part of Vietnam's national identity, in my opinion), but it also presents a rather interesting contrast to the rest of Southeast Asia and East Asia.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Yes please, no Uncle Ho.

Yeah, give us some twin-Trungs
(alright, not really twins, but it's hotter that way )

 

[cybrxkhan]

Yeah, give us some twin-Trungs
(alright, not really twins, but it's hotter that way )

That's pretty marketable, I'll say,

(Not to mention a much better choice for female Asian leaders than Wu Zeitian.)

 

[MARDUK80]

1. Portugal: 160
2. Zulu: 148
3. Indonesia: 132
4. Brazil: 116
5. Sumer: 111
6. Poland: 111
7. Kongo:102
8. Hittites: 97
9. Sioux: 93

Looks like Brazil and Poland are really catching up.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Result update
After 326 votes (+37):

1. Portugal: 162 (+23)
2. Zulu: 149 (+14)
3. Indonesia: 133 (+15)
4. Brazil: 116 (+13)
5. Poland: 114 (+16)
6. Sumer: 113 (+13)
7. Kongo: 102 (+8)
8. Hittites: 100 (+12)

9. Sioux: 94 (+13)
10. Khmer: 80 (+11)
10. Tibet: 80 (+6)
12. Hungary: 77 (+15)
13. Phoenicia: 75 (+12)
14. Assyria: ~73 (+8)
15. Morocco/Moors: 69 (+9)
16. Hebrews: ~68 (+8)

17. Mali: 60 (+11)
18. Armenia: ~58 (+8)
19. Zimbabwe: 55 (+5)
20. Khazars: 52 (+7)
21. Vietnam: ~51 (+5)
22. Nubia: ~50 (+5)
23. Swahili/Kilwa: ~50 (+5)

With at least 3-4 North American Native civs going in this list somewhere between 50-75 votes
Apache, Navajo, Comanche, Mississippian are among the most likely candidates that made it over 50.

And the categories got:
Other Middle-Eastern civs: 98 (+11) - Assyria, Hebrews and Armenia
Other European civs: 41 (+8)
Other African civs: 62 (+10) - Nubia and Swahili
Other South Asian civs: 57 (+7) - Vietnam
Other Central Asian civs: 48 (+5)
Other colonial or "modern" civs: 86 (+15)
South American native civs: 52 (+6)
Other North American civs: 100 (+6) - As stated before, probably some of the Apache, Navajo, Cherokee, Comanche, Pueblo, Mississippian, Crow, Cree, Inuit made it to at least 50-75 votes, but I don't have enough information here for a good guess

Alright, here is another sum of the results:
In the grouped options, the method is similar than previously:

Spoiler :

Based on feedback, the votes to the other options in the region, and to some extent on other polls I try to guess to most popular civs

Other Middle Eastern civs
For this category, Assyira, Israel and probably Armenia are the most popular candidates.
87 votes are a lot, there is a good chance all 3 of those made it over 50 votes
I would put Assyria around 65, the Hebrews around 60, and Armenia aound 50 if I had to make a very rough guess
I'm pretty sure all the others are below 50 by much

Other European civs
They are not too popular with their 33 votes
Not surprising, mostly because of the eurocentrism of the 1st expansion
Anyway, this combined option is on the last place currently
So, none of the other european civs would have gotten more than 20-25 votes so far

Other North American native civs
This is the hardest category to guess, there are just too many similarly popular options, and it got 94 votes
Which could be the dominant civs there? Apache? Navajo? Comanche? Pueblo? Inuit? Cree? Mississippian? Or one of the 5 civilized natives?
Really hard to guess...
Also, it's in this category where IMO it matters the less whether someone get's the Apache or the Comanche in the end...
So I cannot really have any good guesses, only have a clue based on the few comments, but that's not enough here

South American native civs
46 votes. Not that few, but no real leading candidate here
I would say none of the options can have more than 30-35 votes
Probably the Mapuche is leading, but not by much

Other African civs
52 votes for them. As opposed to the previous category, I think there are some popular options (based on feedback). Probably Nubia and Kilwa/Swahili got the majority of the votes
Possibly both could make it close to 45
It's a little stretch, I know, but I will put them on the end of the list

Other South Asian civs
Similar case to Africa, with 50 votes
Here is a clear leading candidate, Vietnam. Based on feedback almost everyone would gladly see them ingame who voted to this option
Somewhere between 45-48 votes in my opinion. Will go to the list with 46
None of the other civs would reach anything more than 30 votes

Other Central Asian civs
43 votes. Very similar to the South American civs.
Don't think any of these have more than 30 votes

Other colonial or "modern" civs
71 votes are not few, but in this option most voters are opting for their own country.
So no real popular option here
Probably none of the civs have more than 1/2 of the votes

Here is the previous list:

Current vote number: 289 (+116):

1. Portugal: 139 (+65)
2. Zulu: 135 (+59)
3. Indonesia: 118 (+36)
4. Brazil: 103 (+53)
5. Sumer: 100 (+38)
6. Poland: 98 (+38)
7. Kongo: 94 (+28)
8. Hittites: 88 (+36)

9. Sioux: 81 (+27)
10. Tibet: 74 (+24)
11. Khmer: 69 (+24)
12. Assyria: ~65 (+27)
13. Phoenicia: 63 (+26)
14. Hungary: 62 (+29)
15. Hebrews: ~60 (+24)
15. Morocco/Moors: 60 (+18)

17. Armenia: ~50 (+18)
17. Zimbabwe: 50 (+13)
19. Mali: 49 (+18)
20. Vietnam: ~46 (+15)
21. Khazars: 45 (+11)
21. Nubia: ~45 (+15)
21. Swahili/Kilwa: ~45 (+15)
With at least 3-4 North American Native civs going in this list somewhere between 45-70 votes
Apache, Navajo, Comanche, Mississippian are among the most likely candidates that made it over 45.

And the categories got:
Other Middle-Eastern civs: 87 (+38) - Assyria, Hebrews and Armenia
Other European civs: 33 (+12)
Other African civs: 52 (+15) - Nubia and Swahili
Other South Asian civs: 50 (+13) - Vietnam
Other Central Asian civs: 43 (+15)
Other colonial or "modern" civs: 71 (+38)
South American native civs: 46 (+16)
Other North American civs: 94 (+35) - As stated before, probably some of the Apache, Navajo, Cherokee, Comanche, Pueblo, Mississippian, Crow, Inuit made it to at least 45-70 votes, but I don't have enough information here for a good guess

 

[MARDUK80]

Looking great!

I would easily pay 5€ each from the first twenty Civs.

 

[almaspeter]

Result update
After 326 votes (+37):

1. Portugal: 162 (+23)
2. Zulu: 149 (+14)
3. Indonesia: 133 (+15)
4. Brazil: 116 (+13)
5. Poland: 114 (+16)
6. Sumer: 113 (+13)
7. Kongo: 102 (+8)
8. Hittites: 100 (+12)

9. Sioux: 94 (+13)
10. Khmer: 80 (+11)
10. Tibet: 80 (+6)
12. Hungary: 77 (+15)
13. Phoenicia: 75 (+12)
14. Assyria: ~73 (+8)
15. Morocco/Moors: 69 (+9)
16. Hebrews: ~68 (+8)

17. Mali: 60 (+11)
18. Armenia: ~58 (+8)
19. Zimbabwe: 55 (+5)
20. Khazars: 52 (+7)
21. Vietnam: ~51 (+5)
22. Nubia: ~50 (+5)
23. Swahili/Kilwa: ~50 (+5)

With at least 3-4 North American Native civs going in this list somewhere between 50-75 votes
Apache, Navajo, Comanche, Mississippian are among the most likely candidates that made it over 50.

Awesome poll, with pretty good-looking results!
I only dislike the votes for the modern civs, Brazil in particular

 

[AbsintheRed]

Awesome poll, with pretty good-looking results!
I only dislike the votes for the modern civs, Brazil in particular

Thanks!
I totally agree btw, I don't think modern civs have a place in the civilization series
Brazil is almost ok though, but definitely no Canada or Australia or such civs...

 

[Crustacian]

Everytime there's a poll or discussion like this one, I'm always surprised to see Israel as a relatively popular choice. Why does everyone want them in game? They've achieved so little of note, and they've only existed since 1948. It wouldn't make any sense to include Israel in Civ to represent that area before 1948, it would be like choosing the United States to represent all Native American tribes in the US before the the US was unified. And if they're only representing the post-1948 nation, that's even worse. I won't start on all their immorality (people seem to be in agreement that morals aren't important when choosing what Civs to be in-game)

Regarding Israel/Hebrew it could be said that we determine how much is achieved in the game, and to "build a civilization to stand the test of time." They did found a religion after all.

My vote is for the Minoan's:

Recent discoveries have shown their trade network and influence was far more widespread than previously understood. ~Gavin Menzies "The Lost Empire of Atlantis"

What was understood already includes: first flushing toilet, first paved road.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMjs3cuP_24 ~ Bettany Hughes

"The extensive commercial activity of the Minoans, which often brought them into contact with most of the developed countries of Asia Minor, Syria, Mesopotamia and Egypt, resulted in stimulated progress in communication and science. The Minoan civilization was the first in Europe to employ a script and make use of applications of the exact sciences. The extent of progress in communication and the administration of economic resources in Minoan Crete are evident mainly from pre-alphabetic scripts and systems of weights and measures. Later Greek tradition presents Minos as the inspiration for many sciences, and Crete was well-known in antiquity as the birthplace of many intellectual achievements."

 

[AbsintheRed]

Alright, here is another sum of the results:
In the grouped options, the method is similar than previously:

Spoiler :

Based on feedback and on other polls to some extent, I try to guess the votes for the civs in the grouped options

Other Middle Eastern civs
In this category, Assyria, Israel and probably Armenia are the most popular candidates.
109 votes are a lot, there is a good chance all 3 of those made it over 60 votes
I would put Assyria around 80-85, the Hebrews around 75, and Armenia around 65 if I had to make a very rough guess
I'm pretty sure all the others are below 60 by much, maximum around half of the votes for the category.

Other European civs
They are not too popular with their 46 votes
Not surprising, mostly because of the eurocentrism of the 1st expansion
Anyway, this combined option is on the last place currently
So, none of the other european civs would have gotten more than 25-30 votes so far

Other North American native civs
This is the hardest category to guess, there are just too many similarly popular options, and it got 107 votes
Which could be the dominant civs there? Apache? Navajo? Comanche? Pueblo/Anasazi? Inuit? Cree? Mississippian? Or one of the 5 civilized natives?
Really hard to guess...
Also, it's in this category where IMO it matters the less whether someone get's the Apache or the Comanche in the end...
So I cannot really have any good guesses, only have a clue based on the few comments, but that's not enough here

South American native civs
57 votes. Not that few, but no real leading candidate here
I would say none of the options can have more than 35-40 votes
Probably the Mapuche is leading, but not by much

Other African civs
75 votes for them. As opposed to the previous category, I think there are some popular options here (based on feedback). Probably Nubia and Kilwa/Swahili got around 80% of the votes.
Possibly both could make it somewhere between 60-65

Other South Asian civs
Similar case to Africa, with 65 votes
Here is a clear leading candidate, Vietnam. Based on feedback almost everyone would gladly see them ingame who voted for this option
Somewhere around 60 votes seems plausible.
None of the other civs could possibly reach anything more than 40 votes

Other Central Asian civs
53 votes. Very similar to the South American civs.
Don't think any of these have more than 35 votes.

Other colonial or "modern" civs
94 votes are not few, but in this option most voters are opting for their own country.
So no real leading option here IMO.
Most likely none of the civs have more than 1/2 of the votes

After 360 votes (+34):

1. Portugal: 181 (+19)
2. Zulu: 163 (+14)
3. Indonesia: 142 (+9)
4. Brazil: 128 (+12)
5. Poland: 125 (+11) - confirmed as a civ in BNW when it was on the 4th place
6. Sumer: 125 (+12)

7. Kongo: 112 (+10)
8. Hittites: 108 (+8)
9. Sioux: 101 (+7)
10. Hungary: 90 (+13)
11. Khmer: 88 (+8)
12. Tibet: 87 (+7)
13. Phoenicia: 86 (+11)
14. Assyria: ~83 (+10) - confirmed as a civ in BNW when it was on the 14th place
15. Morocco/Moors: 82 (+13)

16. Hebrews: ~77 (+9)
17. Mali: 69 (+9)
18. Armenia: ~67 (+9)
19. Zimbabwe: 61 (+6)
20. Khazars: 60 (+8)
20. Vietnam: ~60 (+8)
20. Nubia: ~60 (+10)
20. Swahili/Kilwa: ~60 (+10)
With at least 3-4 North American Native civs going in this list somewhere between 60-80 votes
Apache, Navajo, Comanche, Mississippian, Pueblo/Anasazi are among the most likely candidates that made it over 60.

And the categories got:
Other Middle-Eastern civs: 109 (+11) - Assyria, Hebrews and Armenia
Other European civs: 46 (+5)
Other African civs: 75 (+13) - Nubia and Swahili
Other South Asian civs: 65 (+8) - Vietnam
Other Central Asian civs: 53 (+5)
Other colonial or "modern" civs: 94 (+8)
South American native civs: 57 (+5)
Other North American civs: 107 (+7) - As stated before, probably some of the Apache, Navajo, Cherokee, Comanche, Pueblo/Anasazi, Mississippian, Crow, Cree, Inuit made it to at least 60-80 votes, but I don't have enough information here for a good guess

Previous result:

Spoiler :

Result update
After 326 votes (+37):

1. Portugal: 162 (+23)
2. Zulu: 149 (+14)
3. Indonesia: 133 (+15)
4. Brazil: 116 (+13)
5. Poland: 114 (+16)
6. Sumer: 113 (+13)
7. Kongo: 102 (+8)
8. Hittites: 100 (+12)

9. Sioux: 94 (+13)
10. Khmer: 80 (+11)
10. Tibet: 80 (+6)
12. Hungary: 77 (+15)
13. Phoenicia: 75 (+12)
14. Assyria: ~73 (+8)
15. Morocco/Moors: 69 (+9)
16. Hebrews: ~68 (+8)

17. Mali: 60 (+11)
18. Armenia: ~58 (+8)
19. Zimbabwe: 55 (+5)
20. Khazars: 52 (+7)
21. Vietnam: ~51 (+5)
22. Nubia: ~50 (+5)
23. Swahili/Kilwa: ~50 (+5)

With at least 3-4 North American Native civs going in this list somewhere between 50-75 votes
Apache, Navajo, Comanche, Mississippian are among the most likely candidates that made it over 50.

And the categories got:
Other Middle-Eastern civs: 98 (+11) - Assyria, Hebrews and Armenia
Other European civs: 41 (+8)
Other African civs: 62 (+10) - Nubia and Swahili
Other South Asian civs: 57 (+7) - Vietnam
Other Central Asian civs: 48 (+5)
Other colonial or "modern" civs: 86 (+15)
South American native civs: 52 (+6)
Other North American civs: 100 (+6) - As stated before, probably some of the Apache, Navajo, Cherokee, Comanche, Pueblo, Mississippian, Crow, Cree, Inuit made it to at least 50-75 votes, but I don't have enough information here for a good guess

 

[ales_]

Assyria: ~83 (+10) - confirmed as a civ in BNW when it was in the 14th place

Assyria isn't confirmed as a civ in BNW.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Assyria isn't confirmed as a civ in BNW.

For me it is, it doesn't have to be an official confirmation by Firaxis
Alright... probably my choice of words here may not have been perfect, but I don't really care
We all know they are in, why do you nitpick?

 

[Xandinho]

By chance my list:

1 - Poland 100%

2 - Portugal 90%

3 - Assyria 90%

4 - Zulu 85%

5 - Indonesia 80%

6 - Brazil 75%

7 - Belgium 75%

8 - Congo 65%

9 - Marroco 60%

others:

South Africa 45%
Israel 45%
Switzerland 40%
Hungary 40%
Gra Colombia 40%
Canada 35%
Sioux 30%
Australia 25%

 

[ales_]

By chance of what?

 

[phaethon16]

I voted colonial for Argentina, because I think Eva Peron should be a world leader and Argentina could have an ideology based ability.

 

[fufie]

I voted colonial for Argentina, because I think Eva Peron should be a world leader and Argentina could have an ideology based ability.

Christina Kirchner not good enough?
UA: Whine about Las Malvinas. Reduces population unhappiness in founded cities by 25%.
UI: Pampas. on plains/grassland +1 production, +1 food. +1 extra production and food if cattle
UB: Same-sex Wedding Parlour. Replaces Temple. +2 faith, +2 happiness, no maint.



Maybe also possibility to export great prophets to the vatican CS?

 

[kirbdog]

We have Denmark and Sweden, and as my wife pointed out, not having Norway is "bull****", make it happen Firaxis.

 

[Germnoble]

We have Denmark and Sweden, and as my wife pointed out, not having Norway is "bull****", make it happen Firaxis.

I think Finland deserves the Inclusion before Norway.

 

[kirbdog]

I think Finland deserves the Inclusion before Norway.

Add 'em both, plus Iceland, and make a Scandinavia scenario.