What are you watching on Youtube, right now? Part IV

[Borachio]

Amazing. That's synchronicity in action.

It's actually just coincidence. It would be more amazing if you had never "just watched a youtube video in the last week" that someone posted on a forum later. That particular video has had 5.6 million views. It's not a rare one.

Have you just displayed cognitive bias? I don't know. I'm never terribly sure what cognitive bias is. Someone will know what you've done, though. It's definitely something.

as I'm fascinated with that particular fungi that attacks various insects. Are you saying that that which is UILTIMATE REALITY, the GOD who created the Multiverse, then takes the time to cause the suffering of an ant like a little boy with a magnifying glass who burns one? WHAT?

Yes, indeed. I would expect the God who created the ultimate reality - who is considered to be the personal God of every one of his faithful and for whom not a sparrow but falls to the ground without his knowledge - to be someone with an eye for detail.

Come on. That fungi is an integral aspect of the diversity needed to control the insect species within that ecosystem. Without that fungi, then one species would grow in number and either compete with the other species and consume food sources, or alter the food sources by eliminating some, or eat the other insects. That counterbalance is lovely in Nature and makes me aware of GOD as the Creator.

Where is the fungus that offs human beings when they get too numerous?

But, seriously, you're lending purpose to a fungus which it doesn't have. The natural world doesn't work in terms of purposes, I think. (Though I'm not an ecologist or biologist - they'd be able to explain it better to you.)

The fungus is an organism whose biological "purpose" is to further its own genes. It's not designed to keep the populations of other organisms in check. It may do that. I couldn't possibly comment. But if it does, it's a side-effect. Not a purpose.

A more important counter to your position, I feel, is that if the world were designed by a compassionate benign God then he could surely have so arranged it that ants restricted their reproductive capability as soon as their population reached saturation level. Some species do do this. Why couldn't they all?

Does that mean that GOD makes the insects to suffer? Really?

No I don't believe that God cursed the earth in a generalized way as to be a vengeful god like something groups of humans invented to explain sorrow. I believe in GOD not some petty penaltative god.

I don't recognize the word "penaltative". Do you mean "penalizing"? Though even that doesn't make a lot of sense. How about "malevolent"?

The essence of GOD (Yahweh) is the Source of BEING and LOVE. That's not in keeping with inflicting suffering upon the vast number of species on the Earth.

The last sentence is true.

The Earth contains vast numbers of suffering species. Ergo God, if the creator of the Earth, is not benevolent.

*yawn*

This is just the age-old problem of suffering, you know. I've yet to see an answer to it. I'd like there to be an answer. But it's possible there isn't one.

 

[Rashiminos]

Link to video.

Where is the fungus that offs human beings when they get too numerous?

Outside the ranch fence.

Less cryptically- Take note of following: Viruses, natural disasters, wars, etc..

 

[Borachio]

What? Leptospirosis? No. That's just a bacterium.

What fungus are you thinking of? Is it that deer tick thing? No. That's a tick.

I bet I know what you mean, but I can't think of it.

Anyway, the problem of suffering:

Sharks give birth to live young. Mum conceives several at once and they grow on in a womb-like part of her abdomen. But only one is born. (In fact, I'm just remembering what I can off the top of my head. I don't know whether this applies to all sharks or what.)

The others are consumed by the one that survives to be "born".

It's not an exact analogy of the mammalian process, since sharks are fish. But I think that's about right.

Spiders are interesting too. Mum leaves a whole bundle of eggs in a safe spot and when conditions are right all the spiderlings start rushing out, running about and seizing on anything they can which is remotely edible. Which in the early hours is inevitably one another.

 

[Rashiminos]

Link to video.

What? Leptospirosis? No. That's just a bacterium.

What fungus are you thinking of? Is it that deer tick thing? No. That's a tick.

I bet I know what you mean, but I can't think of it.

I think you are being overly specific if you're looking for literal, unprocessed fungus when it comes to the topic of culling agents.

 

[Crackerbox]

It's actually just coincidence. It would be more amazing if you had never "just watched a youtube video in the last week" that someone posted on a forum later. That particular video has had 5.6 million views. It's not a rare one.

Have you just displayed cognitive bias? I don't know. I'm never terribly sure what cognitive bias is. Someone will know what you've done, though. It's definitely something.

Yes, indeed. I would expect the God who created the ultimate reality - who is considered to be the personal God of every one of his faithful and for whom not a sparrow but falls to the ground without his knowledge - to be someone with an eye for detail.

Where is the fungus that offs human beings when they get too numerous?

But, seriously, you're lending purpose to a fungus which it doesn't have. The natural world doesn't work in terms of purposes, I think. (Though I'm not an ecologist or biologist - they'd be able to explain it better to you.)

The fungus is an organism whose biological "purpose" is to further its own genes. It's not designed to keep the populations of other organisms in check. It may do that. I couldn't possibly comment. But if it does, it's a side-effect. Not a purpose.

A more important counter to your position, I feel, is that if the world were designed by a compassionate benign God then he could surely have so arranged it that ants restricted their reproductive capability as soon as their population reached saturation level. Some species do do this. Why couldn't they all?


I don't recognize the word "penaltative". Do you mean "penalizing"? Though even that doesn't make a lot of sense. How about "malevolent"?


The last sentence is true.

The Earth contains vast numbers of suffering species. Ergo God, if the creator of the Earth, is not benevolent.

*yawn*

This is just the age-old problem of suffering, you know. I've yet to see an answer to it. I'd like there to be an answer. But it's possible there isn't one.

There are any number of fungi that are harmful to humanity. But in terms of something like that fungus and the ant, the relationship of cats to human allows a worldwide transmission of a pathogen via that relationshp.

Link to video.

God is a mystery, and your questions while valid, point only more and more that we don't understand the problem of suffering. There isn't a solution, and would you believe any pat answers I gave you?

Penaltative is an archaic word.

And you're denying that each species might very well have a purpose under Heaven, and not only a single purpose but an interconnection such that multiple purposes based upon multiple condtions result in an incredible interconnection.

Just because you don't believe in GOD as Ultimate Reality, that disbelief doesn't negate it. Can an amoeba disbelieving in you because it can't sense you...negate your existence?

By they way, having this Toxoplasmosis could be one reason there is a high rate of Depression leading to suicide in countries with cat owners.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...k-side-the-link-between-parasite-and-suicide/

 

[Borachio]

Just because you don't believe in GOD as Ultimate Reality, that disbelief doesn't negate it. Can an amoeba disbelieving in you because it can't sense you...negate your existence?

What makes you think I don't believe in God as "ultimate reality"?

All I'm questioning is your position that God is compassionate, benevolent, omnipotent and omniscient. As outlined by the problem of suffering.

Actually it's not at all clear to me that you do think that (though it's the normal formula). You've been less than clear, and somewhat contradictory, on these matters so far.

 

[gangleri2001]

Link to video.

Lyrics:

Das war Befehl, -teiners Befehl
Verrat! Nichts als Versager!
Ich hätte gut daran getan, eigenen Blut! Ist ohne Ehre!
Dann soll die Armee eben können Fegelein nicht finden
unter a- ausgerechnet
Blut werden sie bezahlen in den Weg gelegt
unter a- ausgerechtnet

Bringen Sie mir Fegelein!
Nur man Messer und Gabel hält!
Ganze Luftwaffe sofort von allen!
-fel an meinen Befehl, Ich glaube!
Verrat!
Ich glaube!

Sie nennen sich Generale weil Sie -bracht haben!
-arvenu, ein Faulpelz! Ich will Fegelein sehen
Feiglinge! Sofort! Ausgedrückt!
Dann soll die Armee eben können Fegelein nicht finden
unter a- ausgerechnet
Blut werden sie bezahlen in den Weg gelegt
unter a- ausgerechtnet

Bringen Sie mir Fegelein!
Nur man Messer und Gabel hält!
Ganze Luftwaffe sofort von allen!
-fel an meinen Befehl, Ich glaube!
Bringen Sie mir Fegelein!
Verrat an meiner Person!
Was hat er daraus gemacht?! -phinist!
-fel an meinen Befehl, Ich glaube!
Verrat!
Ich glaube!

Er war Korrupt immer schon
ganz Europa erobert
Ich will sofort seinen Bericht
-ffizier zu lassen, wie Stalin!
Er war Korrupt immer schon
ganz Europa erobert
-ffizier zu lassen, wie Stalin!

Dann soll die Armee eben können Fegelein nicht finden
unter a- ausgerechnet

Bringen Sie mir Fegelein!
Nur man Messer und Gabel hält!
Ganze Luftwaffe sofort von allen!
-fel an meinen Befehl, Ich glaube!
Bringen Sie mir Fegelein!
Verrat an meiner Person!
Was hat er daraus gemacht?! -phinist!
-fel an meinen Befehl, Ich glaube!
Verrat!
Ich glaube!
Verrat!
Ich glaube!



Translated lyrics:

Spoiler :

That was order, -teiner's order
Treason! Nothing but losers!
I had done better own blood! Have no honor!
Then should the army can't find Fegelein
among a- the people
Blood they'll pay placed in the way
among a- the people

Bring me Fegelein!
Only holds knife and fork
Whole Luftwaffe immediately of all!
-oubts about my order, I believe!
Treason!
I believe!

You call yourselves generals because you have -rought
-arvenu, a lazybones! I want to see Fegelein
Cowards! Immediately! Expressed!
Then should the army can't find Fegelein
among a- the people
Blood they'll pay placed in the way
among a- the people

Bring me Fegelein!
Only holds knife and fork
Whole Luftwaffe immediately of all!
-oubts about my order, I believe!
Bring me Fegelein!
Treason to my person!
What has he done out of it? -phine addict!
-oubts about my order, I believe!
Treason!
I believe!

He was corrupt, always!
conquered the whole of Europe
I want his report immediately
-fficers to allow, like Stalin!
He was corrupt, always!
conquered the whole of Europe
-fficers to allow, like Stalin!

Then should the army can't find Fegelein
among a- the people

Bring me Fegelein!
Only holds knife and fork
Whole Luftwaffe immediately of all!
-oubts about my order, I believe!
Bring me Fegelein!
Treason to my person!
What has he done out of it? -phine addict!
-oubts about my order, I believe!
Treason!
I believe!
Treason!
I believe!

 

[Domen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gq77rOuZck


Link to video.

 

[Borachio]

Link to video.

 

[Kyriakos]

Link to video.

That was AWESOME.

Got to admit that not knowing this actor at all, despite the mustache in the interview making it quite obvious he was still acting now, i was still laughing when the twist came.

+1

 

[Hygro]

Hahaha so funny.

 

[Domen]

But why did he keep that moustache ???

 

[Borachio]

Good question.

But without it would the video have had the same impact?

I can't believe he'd have kept the moustache after the film role. But maybe he regrew it for the sake of that interview.

Or maybe he keeps it so he can capitalize on his reputation from Downfall? He did give a masterly performance in that, didn't he?


Link to video.

I must say I'm glad I wasn't in that bunker in 1945.

Though maybe I was? I wonder which one of them was me.

 

[Hygro]

But why did he keep that moustache ???

thas the joke

 

[Terxpahseyton]

Got to admit that not knowing this actor at all, despite the mustache in the interview making it quite obvious he was still acting now, i was still laughing when the twist came.

The interview is actually entirely serious and not in-character (and has nothing to do with the parodies, naturally).

But why did he keep that moustache ???

Most likely the interview took place when filming wasn't wrapped up, yet.
Or maybe he just likes it...

 

[Borachio]

No. I don't think that can be right. The interview was concerned with youtube parodies of the film.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

*inhales*
*exhales*
You are right.

 

[Borachio]

I don't mind you inhaling and exhaling. Just don't throw a tantrum and bite the carpet.

 

[warpus]

Link to video.

 

[Domen]

Or maybe he just likes it...

Uhm, I don't think so. It is far too Hitler-related nowadays.

One of my great-grandfathers supposedly had exactly such a moustache.

But that was before Hitler showed up.

Up to the 1920s and early 1930s that kind of moustache was "trendy".

Hitler ruined it all (just like he tarnished the image of Swastika).