Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
I can think of Amazon... Apart from that, Brazil, but that's a stretch. It's probably more likely that they'll have the country that once controlled Brazil.
What civs do you want in Civ 5 - Updated list
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Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
There really aren't any good choices. Any pre-Columbian civ would look insignificant in the shadow of the Inca. Post-Colombian? We have Gran-Colombia, which didn't last very long. We have Brazil, which is on the rise, but it's uncertain if they've risen enough yet. That's really about it these days.
Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
So far, no SA civs really look good- that's why having an original civ for every continent is unrealistic. I mean, what about Antarctica?
I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Your mistake is understandable though, because you are not Scandinavian.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Well, it depends on the size of the map. In small maps, they kind of overlap, but so do a lot of other Civs.
Oh, the Mayans should be in, imo, but that's technically a North American civ.
Oh, the Mayans should be in, imo, but that's technically a North American civ.
awesome
Meme Lord
gran columbia would be a nice addition. but maybe there won't be anything original from north or south america, though inuits would be a nice addition. maya should definitely be added in, but they've been in the game before, so i'm not counting them in this. and of course there wouldn't be anything in antarctica. i am wondering if there will be a new european civilization, though. there are plenty it could be, even if europe is always over-populated. also, middle east is asian, but it's a different culture area from east asia. off the top of my head, i can't think of any middle eastern civilizations that were unique enough when they were most powerful and also don't overlap, but they have had some that overlap before. timurids, for example, weren't unique enough. maybe the khazars?
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
I don't expect any other north american civs besides the Maya. I would make a case for the Hopi and a weaker case for the Haida, but I don't expect them.
Alright let's split the Americas - in Panama, if only because of the Canal.
I was talking origins when i inserted Mayas. Why is it so hard to admit, LouisXXIV?
Quite frankly, CiV tries to restrict some choices on Medieval to Industrial (in order to squeeze the proverbial square peg with the US, btw).
I can't, simply because of Egypt or Rome.
Something you should be aware of though... Antarctica (defined as continent by numerous treaties, in fact) is an International split between Chile_Argentina and the rest of world.
Terra_Del_Fuego & Falklands are close enough to keep Tasmania & New Zealand into the rather simplistic controversy as well which basicly evaluates anything below and within the 60th South Parallel.
For tricky references, consider the Northern 80th.
You'd need 7 Civs to cover these territorial claims - in a scenario.
With the 8th Leader being a Penguin protected by the UN with a slot on the Endangered Species List enforced by GreenPeace & other organizations!
Wild, isn't it?
I was talking origins when i inserted Mayas. Why is it so hard to admit, LouisXXIV?
Quite frankly, CiV tries to restrict some choices on Medieval to Industrial (in order to squeeze the proverbial square peg with the US, btw).
I can't, simply because of Egypt or Rome.
Something you should be aware of though... Antarctica (defined as continent by numerous treaties, in fact) is an International split between Chile_Argentina and the rest of world.
Terra_Del_Fuego & Falklands are close enough to keep Tasmania & New Zealand into the rather simplistic controversy as well which basicly evaluates anything below and within the 60th South Parallel.
For tricky references, consider the Northern 80th.
You'd need 7 Civs to cover these territorial claims - in a scenario.
With the 8th Leader being a Penguin protected by the UN with a slot on the Endangered Species List enforced by GreenPeace & other organizations!
Wild, isn't it?
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
I have no idea if it's a language barrier, but I have genuinely no idea what you're talking about.
I think the Mayans should be included because of their monument building, scientific knowledge, and cultural dominance of the area. I only said I didn't think to include them in pre-Columbian South American Civs since their geographic location at the height of their cultural prominence was in North America, so it wasn't part of the question asked.
awesome
Meme Lord
"Modern scholars admit they have no satisfactory explanation for the origin of the Maya civilization."
http://www.hope-of-israel.org/copan.htm (just took the first google result, i didn't actually read the article or look at the url until after posting it, so ignore everything but that line)
and besides, the ottomans, for example, are considered middle eastern, not central or east asian. so origins aren't really important for this game, except for maybe a civilopedia entry.
http://www.hope-of-israel.org/copan.htm (just took the first google result, i didn't actually read the article or look at the url until after posting it, so ignore everything but that line)
and besides, the ottomans, for example, are considered middle eastern, not central or east asian. so origins aren't really important for this game, except for maybe a civilopedia entry.
Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
@Zyx: That scenario might get into patch 346 or hopefully October 2105. As for a Euro civ, have Portugal, Austria-Hungary, or Poland been in before? I started swith IV. Byzantine doesn't count.
awesome
Meme Lord
portugal was in iv, not sure about the others.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Ah, that's what he meant by origins. Who cares where they originated? Like you said, they didn't put the Ottomans in Central Asia. If you really want to go origins, all Civs would have to be put in Ethiopia, since that's where H. Sapiens originated.
How would awesome know exactly what i meant by origins?
Aztec & Inca (of CiV and more, btw) are referenced within a 15th century collision with Spain.
Both had Mayan Ancestors which spanned and flourished from the -20th to the 6th... at least.
Cross the barrier of Time instead of language - if you all dare.
But (oh, please
) do NOT insult my intellect.
Aztec & Inca (of CiV and more, btw) are referenced within a 15th century collision with Spain.
Both had Mayan Ancestors which spanned and flourished from the -20th to the 6th... at least.
Cross the barrier of Time instead of language - if you all dare.
But (oh, please
) do NOT insult my intellect.
awesome
Meme Lord
the aztecs definitely intermarried with the mayans and were influenced by them, but that doesn't mean they were just mayans. pretty sure their name comes from where they migrated from, north of their core area.
as for the inca, they may have traded with the maya because i think i remember something about a random island in the pacific with mayan architecture, but that also doesn't mean that the inca are mayans.
finally, the maya have been in the game before, so they wouldn't be a civ 5 exclusive. that doesn't mean they shouldn't be put into the game, we all agree that they should.
as for the inca, they may have traded with the maya because i think i remember something about a random island in the pacific with mayan architecture, but that also doesn't mean that the inca are mayans.
finally, the maya have been in the game before, so they wouldn't be a civ 5 exclusive. that doesn't mean they shouldn't be put into the game, we all agree that they should.
Random Island?
I'll give you one more which isn't widely known. AFAICR, an accidental meeting i had in 1983 with a University "Official" while i was researching Solar Flares Physics.
Caicos.
They went that further east.
I'll give you one more which isn't widely known. AFAICR, an accidental meeting i had in 1983 with a University "Official" while i was researching Solar Flares Physics.
Caicos.
They went that further east.
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