What If every Race had a country?

Should every race have a country?


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puglover said:
We all wish. But human greed will always get in the way of peace, power-hungry people with the desire of have more than their peers.

nah, that only happens in societies where personal ambition is otherwise squashed; thiers no reason why a huge united earth woudlnt work, and aside, your reaosning dosent seem to includende the fact that any one whith the ambition to control "more" cant control any "more" then the entire world; leading it to be in a person who wants "ultimate" power's advatage to have a united earth.
 
that, mono-"race" nations is dumb; thiers no such thing as a "race", thier are ethncities, but the two are not one in the same. while its nice to have a particuler region knwon for beign the historic spawnign point of a particuler peoples, that dosetn mean the world needs to be carved up and partitioned as such.
 
I dont beleve that races should be separated.
 
Xen said:
nah, that only happens in societies where personal ambition is otherwise squashed; thiers no reason why a huge united earth woudlnt work, and aside, your reaosning dosent seem to includende the fact that any one whith the ambition to control "more" cant control any "more" then the entire world; leading it to be in a person who wants "ultimate" power's advatage to have a united earth.

I know plenty of people who wouldn't be content to be at the same level as everyone else. Global equality will never work as long as the Earth remains.
 
puglover said:
I know plenty of people who wouldn't be content to be at the same level as everyone else. Global equality will never work as long as the Earth remains.

global equality we arnt shooting for; merelly global unifacation, two very seperate and distinct things; to you think that Kansas is on the same leval as New York> Hell no, but they are poart of the same nation, and entitled to the same rights, and thiers little reason why similer cant (or shouldnt) be apllied ot the world at large. Prefferbaley, any grand united nation woudl be highlly decentrlized though.
 
No, every race should NOT get their own country, nor every ethnicity for that matter. In theory, in a happy world where everything is perfect, every ethnic group having their own land and country means the end to ethnic conflicts. In reality, it would lead to countries engaging in genocide and ethnic cleansing to try to get rid of ethnic minorities in their land.

Far better to have a country not founded on an ethnic basis, where all citizens regardless of ethnicity, are treated equally.
 
Taliesin said:
Is your computer haunted by the vindictive phantom of Thomas Bowdler?
Ha! Excellent post, and no one commented on it. Shame on all of you. Ten to one odds Fox didn't get that. . . or most people for that matter.
 
Other/ Protest option (That's right I protest): We all have the same race. Dividing it up among race means seperating us from other species.

I'm sick of ethinicity and skin pigment seperation as well.
 
Ethnic nationalism is an out-date concept, fit for the 19th and 20th centuries (This, I believe, is the what Fox was trying to get at), although its orgins come from the ancient tribal mential of humanity.

People tend to devide the world in to two groups: us and them. And if they are weak, they demand that the group 'us' be protected and insulated from the outsiders (them). That sound fine and mighty, until the group gain power; then they start demanding that other groups conforming to their way of life. This mentality can lead to only one thing; perpetual conflict and war. People have argued that religion lead to wars of 'our god is better that your god', and while somewhat true, it is only a part of a large problem. It is really more like 'our god/language/enthnicty/culture is better that your god/language/enthnicty/culture'.

Deviding up nations up so that every ethnic group has it on state is insane. It would diminish the very existance of the state, as it could not properly defend the state, nor enforce law and order if it is constantly be underminded by successionist movements. Such nations would only serve to hamper the flow of goods, services, capital, people and information accross the world, all in the name of "national (or cultural) survivial". Organizations like the PQ/BQ, Scottish Independence Party, Eusko Alkartasuna, are living in a dream world. The time for nations has past, and we ought move beyond it.
 
No, I don't think it would be a good idea for every ethniticy have its own country. Still I'm found of the good old nationstate where a majority culture is present. At least it doesn't seem healthy to have two equally large cultures/languages in one country, there would be constant need to keep the strengths of the groups in check which would take energy from the task of developing the country. For instance, I think it was healthy that Czechoslovakia was divided in the 90s. It would be very interesting to hear what a Czech have to say about this.

One country or more per language would be aesthically pleasing on some level. The language is a fundamental culture carrier and makes a small threshold to other cultures. It seems to me that historically speaking, when a language dies, the culture that spoke it are often considered to have died in the same moment. Ethnicity is less important IMO. That said, I wouldn't support a massive global splitup/merge operation for practical reasons.

One country for the whole world doesn't seem like a good idea. One small reason is that if it were an oppressive dictatorship there would be nowhere to flee. Countries and borders are in general good concepts in the same way property rights are. A limited (but open) group of people (the citizens) responsible for a limited area encourages good care of that area. If someone can move whereever he want he will have no incentive to improve the area/society he's currently living in.
 
"What If every Race had a country?"

Then all countries would be at war with another.
 
Indians (native americans) have (had) NorthAmerica Thats not a country..
Whites Have Europe (originally)
Africans of course have Africa
Asians have Asia
Muslims or Jews or Indians (from india) Have The Asia minor
They dont have their own countrys, but continents.
 
"What If every Race had a country?"
Locally some people would still find other petty tribalistic traits on which to feel superior to their own countrymen.
 
CruddyLeper said:
I believe some squatter communities have followed this approach, although their ambassadors are still waiting to enter the UN building.
And they miss suppliers for water, electricity etc.


@Fox McCloud: Visit Peacefire. That should cure you of the annoying censorware.
 
No way. if that were the case, I'd be german, since my country wouldn't exist....
 
Keirador said:
Ha! Excellent post, and no one commented on it. Shame on all of you. Ten to one odds Fox didn't get that. . . or most people for that matter.

I never knew his first name. :)

On topic: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and no.

Renata
 
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