What if we temporarily suspend congress for 3 months?

[Archbob]

So since congress is not working correctly, what if we just temporarily suspend them for 3 months and let Barack Obama-man issue executive orders to try and fix our economic problems. Would it get more accomplished than what we are doing currently?

 

[Cutlass]

He doesn't have the legal authority to do more than what he is doing. There really isn't anything that can be done quickly at this point.

 

[Archbob]

What if we just make it so what he says actually gets implemented, no blockages from congress.

 

[Disgustipated]

Then tea partiers will overthrow the government with all the guns they've been hoarding.

 

[Cutlass]

What is needed is to put people to work. What can be done fast in that regard? Not as much as people tend to think. Recall all those "shovel ready projects" from the last stimulus? Many of them took a year to even be begun. Because those planned projects really are not ready to begin. As a whole, they aren't even completely planned. Regulations don't allow the spending of the money to complete the planning until the project is approved. There aren't a whole lot of already approved projects out there.

The infrastructure spending that is objectively worthwhile in its own right is stuff that you just can't start hiring workers for tomorrow.

What else have you got that will quickly have people employed? Maybe $50-100billion for SBA loans. One of the reasons that the economy is lagging is that small businesses are having a hell of a difficult time getting bank loans still. The banks are still fubar. I can't off the top of my head think of anything that would put people to work faster than that. But it wouldn't solve the whole of the problem.

 

[bernie14]

edit: never mind

 

[Luckymoose]

We would get about the same amount done as we do with congress in session.

 

[Disgustipated]

What is needed is to put people to work. What can be done fast in that regard? Not as much as people tend to think. Recall all those "shovel ready projects" from the last stimulus? Many of them took a year to even be begun. Because those planned projects really are not ready to begin. As a whole, they aren't even completely planned. Regulations don't allow the spending of the money to complete the planning until the project is approved. There aren't a whole lot of already approved projects out there.

The infrastructure spending that is objectively worthwhile in its own right is stuff that you just can't start hiring workers for tomorrow.

What else have you got that will quickly have people employed? Maybe $50-100billion for SBA loans. One of the reasons that the economy is lagging is that small businesses are having a hell of a difficult time getting bank loans still. The banks are still fubar. I can't off the top of my head think of anything that would put people to work faster than that. But it wouldn't solve the whole of the problem.

Putting people to work ehh. I think it's time to make a new thread. I read this opinion article, and while I don't agree with it, it's time to discuss it. Personally, I can't seen any jobs being created, and I doubt I'll ever see less than 7% unemployment rate in my lifetime. This is the new norm.

 

[Skwink]

I for one wouldn't support an Emperor. Unless I was the Emperor, of course.

 

[Cutlass]

It's only the new norm to the extent that we choose to accept it.

 

[NickyJ]

The U.S. will descend into anarchy, the world will be in chaos, family's will starve to death, and an asteroid will smash into the earth, sending us hurling towards a black hole. Wait. This is what happens if Congress is dismissed for three months? Oh, sorry 'ol chap, I thought we were talking about if we didn't raise the debt ceiling. Oh, well, not all is lost, just use the writings above as a template.

 

[Zelig]

Have you considered the ramifications of temporarily suspending congress forever, or permanently suspending congress for three months?

 

[Disgustipated]

My first thought upon seeing the thread title was this was a lead in for a joke.

President suspends congress for 3 months, stock markets jump 1200 points.

In case it wasn't obvious, Obama suspending congress would basically turn him into a dictator. Who would give up that kind of power once they achieve it?

 

[civ_king]

My first thought upon seeing the thread title was this was a lead in for a joke.

President suspends congress for 3 months, stock markets jump 1200 points.

In case it wasn't obvious, Obama suspending congress would basically turn him into a dictator. Who would give up that kind of power once they achieve it?

Cincinnatus...

 

[Elephantium]

I'd say today's politicians are more like Nero...

 

[REDY]

Huh, its their work protect country from Obama.

 

[History_Buff]

Cincinnatus...

Ol' George Washington might be preferable to Cincinnatus who was no the most egalitarian of fellows. He spent his consular term trying to block reforms to apply the same law to patricians and plebians

 

[Tani Coyote]

Obama would become a dictator, and probably actually do something.

Economically there wouldn't be much change because there's not much the state can do. Fiscally the most we could hope for is a few more approved projects and a few tax raises.

Socially, Obama'd likely be a juggernaut, with liberalism triumphing at the federal level.

Foreign policy wise? Even without Congress, I think he'll stay the course of being non-interventionist and interventionist whenever convenient.

Now, once the three months are up, is when things are interesting. I doubt he'd give it back - few dictators actually give up their power.

If he doesn't give up his power, well, I think the old theory of gun rights helping a revolution would finally be tested!

 

[Tee Kay]

We should take a leaf from His Imperial Majesty Norton I's book and suspend Congress forever.

 

[amadeus]

We should take a leaf from His Imperial Majesty Norton I's book and suspend Congress forever.

And the presidency.