What is the most misunderstood historical event?

[CELTICEMPIRE]

That'll happen whenever there's a refugee crisis. It's why a subset of people are worried about man-made global warming causing stress in certain high-poverty regions.

I'm mainly thinking about America during the last 12 months.

 

[El_Machinae]

There was a significant bump when Obama was elected. But yeah, the #blacklivesmatter did a double-whammy, by empowering racist memes and because momentum within the movement didn't precipitate out of the most ideal example of racist abuse.

 

[JollyRoger]

Sure, there has been a rise in outward bigotry the last 12 months - against blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, gays, and even Asian immigrants to some extent. Haven't really noticed a marked rise in outward anti-Semitism.

 

[Kyriakos]

Sure, there has been a rise in outward bigotry the last 12 months - against blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, gays, and even Asian immigrants to some extent. Haven't really noticed a marked rise in outward anti-Semitism.

That sounds antisemitic.

 

[JollyRoger]

Even the bigots are discriminating against them by neglecting them so much as targets of bigotry.

 

[Joecoolyo]

Sure, there has been a rise in outward bigotry the last 12 months - against blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, gays, and even Asian immigrants to some extent. Haven't really noticed a marked rise in outward anti-Semitism.

I've found it more subtle and confined somewhat to the internet, at least in America. In Europe it seems a lot worse, and just like Islamophobia, is a bit more open in public discourse.

As for here, there's no saying if anti-Semitism will make the jump from stormfront discussions to public discussions, but considering the jump in other bigotry, there's no ruling it out.

 

[Formaldehyde]

I've noticed that anti-semites (and racists in general) have been more out in the open this last year than they have been in the years before.

Hopefully, the authoritarian far-right will never catch on to the notion of irony and hypocrisy.

Freedom of speech continues to be the best weapon against actual bigotry and racism.

 

[Leoreth]

Sure, there has been a rise in outward bigotry the last 12 months - against blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, gays, and even Asian immigrants to some extent. Haven't really noticed a marked rise in outward anti-Semitism.

Black lives matter invigorated lots of racist hate groups on social media in my experience, and once those people are fired up they're not overly discriminating in where they direct their racism.

But if you're talking about mainstream public discourse, you're probably right.

 

[abradley]

As for the percentage of people who died in WW2.

How about the Jews, 6 million died of a 16 million (est.) world wide population.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005161
In 1933, approximately 9.5 million Jews lived in Europe, comprising 1.7% of the total European population. This number represented more than 60 percent of the world's Jewish population at that time, estimated at 15.3 million.

Wonder why they say 'Never again.'

 

[useless]

It wasn't just jews who died in the holocaust, Homosexuals, Political opponents, Jehovah's Witnesses, Gypsies, The Disabled, People of colour, trade unionists, Russian POWs, Freemasons, Poles, Ukrainians, Slavs, Serbs, draft resisters, etc. This tends to get glossed over, although understandably, by the larger amount of Jews who died, but let's not forget all of the victims.

 

[abradley]

It wasn't just jews who died in the holocaust, Homosexuals, Political opponents, Jehovah's Witnesses, Gypsies, The Disabled, People of colour, trade unionists, Russian POWs, Freemasons, Poles, Ukrainians, Slavs, Serbs, draft resisters, etc. This tends to get glossed over, although understandably, by the larger amount of Jews who died, but let's not forget all of the victims.

True, but 6 million of 16 million is one heck of a percentage, agreed.

 

[useless]

Even so, it wasn't a uniquely Jewish tragedy.

 

[abradley]

Even so, it wasn't a uniquely Jewish tragedy.

Yes it was, 6 million out of 16 million killed. Who else comes anywhere near that percentage?

Heck, let's just ignore it, after all there may have been a Chinese guy killed in it.

 

[useless]

Jesus christ, more non-jewish people died, by that logic it's not a uniquely Jewish tradegy. The nazi's literally just shoved any and everyone they disliked into the camps and yes, a the largest group was jews, but to assign it as a jewish tragedy is to ignore those that also died but weren't european jews.

 

[abradley]

Jesus christ, more non-jewish people died, by that logic it's not a uniquely Jewish tradegy. The nazi's literally just shoved any and everyone they disliked into the camps and yes, a the largest group was jews, but to assign it as a jewish tragedy is to ignore those that also died but weren't european jews.

6 million out of 16 million killed.

Never forget.

 

[Arakhor]

Yes it was, 6 million out of 16 million killed. Who else comes anywhere near that percentage?

That's not what the word unique means. Yes, it was a monstrous tragedy, with Jews being disproportionately affected, but in no sense of the word unique can it possibly mean that.

 

[abradley]

That's not what the word unique means. Yes, it was a monstrous tragedy, with Jews being disproportionately affected, but in no sense of the word unique can it possibly mean that.

Who cares whether it's unique or not.

6 million of 16 million Jews were killed.

 

[useless]

6 million out of 16 million killed.

Never forget.

Who is forgetting? Im just asking that ALL victims of the holocaust are treated equally, that deference is given to all of them, that Jew's weren't some special group in the big scheme of things, homosexuals were just as persecuted, same with freemasons and political opponents.

And also, you seem to care, since you agreed that it was uniquely jewish:

Yes it was, 6 million out of 16 million killed. Who else comes anywhere near that percentage?

Heck, let's just ignore it, after all there may have been a Chinese guy killed in it.

 

[sophie]

Who is forgetting? Im just asking that ALL victims of the holocaust are treated equally, that deference is given to all of them, that Jew's weren't some special group in the big scheme of things, homosexuals were just as persecuted, same with freemasons and political opponents.

and catholicks.

How did we even get here in the first place?

 

[useless]

I dared to mention that other groups were also killed/put into camps