What is "The Press"?

[Methos]

Okay, just for the record, I am going to remember who is now in this thread embracing 'founding father intent' for future reference...

Why wouldn't you take it into consideration? You're asking us to discuss why the statement was included rather then just leaving it out, so I believe it would be foolish not to consider the 'founding father intent' in order to properly reply. I find it odd that many think it foolish not to take it into consideration.

 

[Tacitusitis]

Well exactly, Mise, speech already covers print, so why the additional need for "Freedom of the Press" if it wasn't intended to cover a separate, specific industry (again, read first post for use of 'industry')?

No, "freedom of speech" means freedom of expression.

Freedom of the press means the freedom to print.

Basically the government may not lock you up for saying X nor for printing Y.

So then DC Comics is the press and not just covered by free speech with their Superman publications and whatnot... That's what you're saying?

Yep precisely.

Okay, just for the record, I am going to remember who is now in this thread embracing 'founding father intent' for future reference...

I'm not embracing 'founding father intent.' I'm embracing 'using the founding principles as a guide to situations they would not have anticipated.'

Such as urbanization, industrialization, technology, the fact that we can have an Air Force if we want to....

Protecting blogs under press freedom is as much of an insult to the Constitution as Social Security, in other words, not an insult at all

 

[Bill3000]

No, "freedom of speech" means freedom of expression.

Freedom of the press means the freedom to print.

No, freedom of expression is a larger term which includes freedom of speech, press, and belief.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Would the Founding Fathers have used blogs if they had them?

 

[Tacitusitis]

Would the Founding Fathers have used blogs if they had them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Papers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Sense_(pamphlet)
yes

 

[tycoonist]

Isn't this discussion just a tad pointless?

 

[Yared]

No it wouldn't. Freedom of speech covers speech, freedom of press covers publications. It's not that hard to understand.

This. In Sweden, we have "yttrandefriheten" and "tryckfriheten" which mean "the freedom to speak" and "the freedom to print".

 

[JollyRoger]

Okay, just for the record, I am going to remember who is now in this thread embracing 'founding father intent' for future reference...

And I am going to note who is trying to flee from it.

 

[Tacitusitis]

This. In Sweden, we have "yttrandefriheten" and "tryckfriheten" which mean "the freedom to speak" and "the freedom to print".

Those are way cooler than our words

 

[Yared]

Do we need a "the freedom to type" as well?

 

[naterator]

According to a Wikileaked supreme court justice i met in Kansas one time, the press is anybody that the government issues a white house press pass to. Anyone else is an enemy of the state, to be dealt with accordingly.

Of course my own personal opinion, press = people who publish. For our purposes, publishing shall be defined as:

1a : to make generally known
b : to make public announcement of
2a : to disseminate to the public
b : to produce or release for distribution; specifically : print
2c c : to issue the work of (an author)