What is the world's bravest nation

[Squonk]

I will just mention that Canute was half-Polish

 

[Kweli]

I say Poland. They held off invasions since the middle ages.

i really hate questions like this. there is no bravest nation. not in europe & not in america or somewhere else.

i also have great problems with patriotism. 4 what is patriotism good? if we had less patriotism in the world we would have less wars. this is my opinion.
there world don't needs patriotism which says that one nation is the best in world.

ok, may i share this opionion because i am from germany. you all now our history.

 

[superisis]

Patriotism can be good in that it can form trust and unity within a nation, which is quite essential. But as we know, the side effects kinda suck.

 

[Communisto]

When some of you say Celts, whom are you speaking of. I asume Scots, Welsh, English and Irish. If so then...

The Irish aren't Celts. Our ancestry comes from the Gaedhil or Gaels. A branch of Celts, though very different. Might as well call a greek a russian.

 

[privatehudson]

Most people wouldn't refer to the english as part of the celtic group of peoples, leastways not right now.

 

[gael]

When some of you say Celts, whom are you speaking of. I asume Scots, Welsh, English and Irish. If so then...

The Irish aren't Celts. Our ancestry comes from the Gaedhil or Gaels. A branch of Celts, though very different. Might as well call a greek a russian.

The geals are part of the interpretation of an age old Irish oral tradation and mythology written down by early christian monks when we learned literacy, with a little artistic licence to put it lightly. The last of five in the invasion myths who up until recently among all the scholarly types were accepted as the celts who imposed thier culture and way of life on the island.

Lingistic people tell us our language is celtic, our art, culture and Gods were celtic. The only problem is there has been no archaeological evidence to prove these invasions.

So the new modern argument for celtic Ireland thats the buzz is that we were not invaded by an army of celts at all, but became 'celtic' in most ways as result of cultural exchange.

This is just a theroy which i haven't really read up as much as i should, so you should do your own homework before taking what i say as gospel.
On that vien of ignorance, the only thing in my mind that could consume and eventually dominate the current Irish culture of that time, if not war, would be have to be religion.

If its right I think it shines a lot of light on what we know of the celtic civalistion from Roman and Greek sources who class them as mere barbarians and shows that they had indeed a very powerful cultural pull which obsorbed those who they came in contact with and would explain how thier influence spread so far and stuck, when all they were was a loose gathering of tribes of most probably multi-ethinic origins.

The English, or anglo/saxons, have been recorded in history as germanic invaders into 'celtic' Britian. The main sources for this info is Gildas, a close to contempory British (welsh) histrian of the time and Beede (anglo/saxon), who wrote the anglo/saxon cronicles a few ages laters on.
Some modern English historians like to point out that there is no evidence of this invasion either.
Like i said, I haven't read enough to really argue. Truth is i doubt you can read enough to be really sure, so its basically up for endless arguement and at best a matter of opinion.

 

[Xen]

@Gael: is it true that "black irish" (Irshmen with black hair, and dark eyes, IIRC) are the left overs of Atlantis?

 

[Garry Denke]

The Indian Nation has the most Braves

Go figure the Bravest

 

[Communisto]

The geals are part of the interpretation of an age old Irish oral tradation and mythology written down by early christian monks when we learned literacy, with a little artistic licence to put it lightly. The last of five in the invasion myths who up until recently among all the scholarly types were accepted as the celts who imposed thier culture and way of life on the island.

Lingistic people tell us our language is celtic, our art, culture and Gods were celtic. The only problem is there has been no archaeological evidence to prove these invasions.

So the new modern argument for celtic Ireland thats the buzz is that we were not invaded by an army of celts at all, but became 'celtic' in most ways as result of cultural exchange.

This is just a theroy which i haven't really read up as much as i should, so you should do your own homework before taking what i say as gospel.
On that vien of ignorance, the only thing in my mind that could consume and eventually dominate the current Irish culture of that time, if not war, would be have to be religion.

If its right I think it shines a lot of light on what we know of the celtic civalistion from Roman and Greek sources who class them as mere barbarians and shows that they had indeed a very powerful cultural pull which obsorbed those who they came in contact with and would explain how thier influence spread so far and stuck, when all they were was a loose gathering of tribes of most probably multi-ethinic origins.

The English, or anglo/saxons, have been recorded in history as germanic invaders into 'celtic' Britian. The main sources for this info is Gildas, a close to contempory British (welsh) histrian of the time and Beede (anglo/saxon), who wrote the anglo/saxon cronicles a few ages laters on.
Some modern English historians like to point out that there is no evidence of this invasion either.
Like i said, I haven't read enough to really argue. Truth is i doubt you can read enough to be really sure, so its basically up for endless arguement and at best a matter of opinion.

hmm, interesting stuff

 

[Fox Mccloud]

Yeah, well we French (or at least half-French) whooped your limey asses at Yorktown

I thought you were British!!

 

[privatehudson]

He's half French, which means he only drinks 4 cases of wine a week

 

[NBGreenDay]

Far off in sunlit places
Sad are the Scottish faces
Yearning to feel the kiss
Of sweet Scottish rain.
Where tropic skies are beaming,
Love sets the heart a-dreaming,
Longing and dreaming
for the homeland again.

Amen.So I'll go with dear auld Scotia what with the revolution in the opening years of the 14th century, and who could forget the last Highland charge at Culloden *even though in later years Scotsman wearing tan uniforms have made a charge or two, they werent doing it for St. Andrew* Though I will give 8/10s of the Emerald Isle props for its independance. Speaking of the two, although they never had their own country I've heard once or twice that the Scots-Irish were a hearty bunch. This is more of a paraphrase than a quote but I believe it went something like

"If all else fails I will retreat to Virginia and rally around the Scots Irish, for they will never subject to tyranny as long as there is one reamining to hold a dagger" -George Washington...feel free to correct any mistakes in there, but thats the general idea

 

[gael]

The scots-Irish are neither scotch or Irish. They are lowland scotch turncoats that orginate from the loyalist/unionist pool in N.Ireland who exported thier nicely refined bigotry and religious fundamentalism from here to the US south.

..they will never subject to tyranny .

Thay can dish it out though if given the chance. They have been romanticized by scotch-Irish americans into heros, even down to them having 'shrewd heads, strong limbs, stout hearts.' etc etc. *surprise, surprise*

Complete bullsh*t!

They are the orginal 'hillbillys' and 'rednecks'. They were from rural america, hense the 'hills' part and the Billy comes from thier icon King Billy, (william of orange) who defeated the chatholic James II in Ireland.
The 'redneck' comes from a red neck tie they wore in the states so they could identify each other and thier religous beliefs.

Hillbilly and Redneck have become universal as names to refer to bigot, racist, small minded etc.
They're a hearty bunch all right, they're proud of it.

 

[NBGreenDay]

Turncoats? Well forgive me for being a product of the American Educational System then, but when I last studied the Scots Irish, in highschool, we were taught they were the Highlanders and Jacobites forced to Ireland from the glory of good King Georgie's Highland Cleansing. And then from Ireland to the Southern Colonies because eeking out a living in Ireland wasn't working out for them. Also, as I know words tend to recieve different meanings and connotations as the cross the World's different oceans and the Mason-Dixie line, I'll interject that Redneck and Hillbilly are not quite as derrogatory as you may think down here, but then again you don't live here.

And I don't live there, so, given that the Scots Irish are Scots turncoats from the Republic, what did happen to those from the Highland Cleansing?

 

[gael]

From the north of Ireland, not the Republic.

They weren't highlanders either, they are lowland scots and english who were getting persecuted for their religious beliefs, not for being scotch, and given land in the north of ireland after the Irish were pushed out of ulster to act as a garrison for England in a place of Ireland that held the most resistance to english rule.

They are still here and honour the queen, fly the union jack along side the scottish flag and hate anything to do with gaelic culture.

They moved to the states to get away form the constant fighting in the north between them and the Irish.

The Highland cleansing was all about anglicising the last of the gaelic enclaves in the highlands, nothing to do directly with the scotch-Irish.

 

[NBGreenDay]

Damn, then our education systems do need a bit of reformation. Duely corrected.

 

[gael]

Don't take what i say as right, read up on the plantation of Ireland to get a clearer picture on the history of the ulster-scots (US: Scotch-Irish).

Its a long and troubled history, so don't just read American sources.

Edit: sorry for barking it out man, I'm from the north of Ireland. I lose the plot sometimes when hear about the 'proud and hearty' scotch-Irish.

 

[cidknee]

He's half French, which means he only drinks 4 cases of wine a week

i thought that was 1/4 french? ANYWAYS, ive always admired the Afghani people, they stopped the brits, they had the soviets, and then the taliban. They are a country thats been at war for almost a century... seems to me they would have to be pretty brave.

 

[rilnator]

Don't know if you can class it as a nation as such but I think the CSA was pretty brave. They fought ma good war, with honour and a lot of the people suffered hardships throughout.

 

[Japanrocks12]

India - One of the few, if not the only, nations to gain independence through persistent nonviolence(but the occasional slaughter of British officials)