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the guy who invented the Sikh religion
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the guy who invented the Sikh religion
Originally written by ANGELA DUTRA DE MENEZES
Afonso Henriques expels the Moors from Lisbon and a number of other Portuguese cities
Originally posted by raen
Very few people know, but it's thanks to the political shrewdness of Afonso Henriques that Portugal is the first European country to establish itself as an independent state.
Originally posted by calgacus
- with a little [actually, big] help from his friends - the 2nd Crusade !
Originally posted by calgacus
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Is this what Portuguese-speaking people are taught?![]()
Originally posted by raen
Yes, and whats the problem? He was smart enough to get their help. Dont try to destroy this too with your lack of knowledge.
Originally posted by raen
Please Justify your affirmation.
Originally posted by calgacus
My lack of knowledge
Originally posted by calgacus
It's simply not true, but I find it very interesting that Portuguese-speaking people think it is.![]()
Originally posted by MCdread
Anyway, I'm sorry raen, but that article is filled with a bit of nationalistic crap that's simply not true. In particular the part you quoted about his knighthood is something that has no evidence and was made up a few centuries later, but was perpetrated by the historians of Salazar's regime who idolised Afonso Henriques.
The man was still a force of nature, and worthy of admiration, but there is no need to make him a demigod.
Originally posted by MCdread
Well, you wouldn't be the first person having problems with calgacus...What's the problem with Conquests' section?
Originally posted by calgacus
I said that I was going to combine Spain and Portugal for my own personal civ game. Even though it was a personal thing, there are three Portuguese guys who won't leave me alone on the matter![]()
Originally posted by MCdread
It is said in the sense that it has the oldest stable borders in Europe (the borders haven't changed since the XIII century), but I guess we all like simplicity. But you are right calgacus.
Originally posted by MCdread
As for calgacus changes in his civ file, do you really care about that?
Cheers.
Originally posted by raen
Of course not!! he can do what he want a please him, but he cant say that Portugal was not a great power in their one time, maybe you missed that part because is late, that part is the one that bothers me![]()
Originally posted by calgacus
I said it wasn't a "super power", but I confirmed it was a "great power". You're problem then, it seems, is that you pretend the two terms mean the same
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