newfangle
hates you.
Indeed.
What kids know about military history
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Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
Goddamnit, I had no idea!
newfangle
hates you.
There is no point in defending the err of our past. Ever since that day, I have been less and less nationalistic 
ss3goku
Praetor
I guess the doomsayers are right, history will repeat itself. If this keeps up, we'll be in another major war.
I don't care what country they are from, but as long as they fought for the good of humanity, soldiers will always be remembered in my heart. They are the ones who die on the front lines defending our "utopia." I've seen this stupidity, but it's not as bad at my school. WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET THE SACRIFICES TO MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE. I'm sorry, but this article really makes me angry.
I don't care what country they are from, but as long as they fought for the good of humanity, soldiers will always be remembered in my heart. They are the ones who die on the front lines defending our "utopia." I've seen this stupidity, but it's not as bad at my school. WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET THE SACRIFICES TO MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE. I'm sorry, but this article really makes me angry.
Pontiuth Pilate
Republican Jesus!
I see the Americans have such high standards! Let's see how many of them can answer these simple questions. Fill in the blanks.
1. In the Civil War, the Union and Confederacy gave different names to each battle. The Unionists named them after [blank], the Confederates after [blank].
2. The French joined the American Revolution on Washington's side after [blank], emissary to the King of France, informed him of America's recent victory at the Battle of [blank].
3. At [blank], a small Crimean town, the fate of Europe after the [blank] war was forever altered by the leaders who met there. The Americans were represented by [blank].
4. "Millions for defense, not a cent for tribute". This pithy saying, uttered by President [blank], nearly sparked a war with [blank].
5. America twice attempted to invade [blank] and failed totally; a humiliation they compensate for today by ridiculing said nation mercilessly
1. In the Civil War, the Union and Confederacy gave different names to each battle. The Unionists named them after [blank], the Confederates after [blank].
2. The French joined the American Revolution on Washington's side after [blank], emissary to the King of France, informed him of America's recent victory at the Battle of [blank].
3. At [blank], a small Crimean town, the fate of Europe after the [blank] war was forever altered by the leaders who met there. The Americans were represented by [blank].
4. "Millions for defense, not a cent for tribute". This pithy saying, uttered by President [blank], nearly sparked a war with [blank].
5. America twice attempted to invade [blank] and failed totally; a humiliation they compensate for today by ridiculing said nation mercilessly
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
I take issue with number five. The correct number is not "twice," for that merely reflects the number of wars in which invasions were launched. There were, however, at least two and arguably four distinct, coordinated, multi-front invasion attempts in the second of those wars, meaning that a total of three to five failures should be counted.
Ehem.
Ehem.
Pontiuth Pilate
Republican Jesus!
I think it's clear that this remark is intended to be sarcasm.
I should have put [/sarcasm] at the end of my post. I fully realized it was sarcastic and was being sarcastic straight back
In America however it's no joke; it really is just a day off from school to go barbeque something - to most kids I know.
I should have put [/sarcasm] at the end of my post. I fully realized it was sarcastic and was being sarcastic straight back
In America however it's no joke; it really is just a day off from school to go barbeque something - to most kids I know.
Pontiuth Pilate
Republican Jesus!
Well sure Richard... you could also include the Fenians if you like, but it would hardly "count".
Yeah, Canada is hardly mentioned in our history classes. I just gained a little information based on my own reading and watching of documentaries and so forth.
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
Originally posted by Pontiuth Pilate
Well sure Richard... you could also include the Fenians if you like, but it would hardly "count".
I don't, actually, unlike some Canadian nationalists I know who unfairly try to increase the count.
rivers or natural features / settlements or human landmarks (e.g. junctions)
Benjamin Franklin
Yalta
I know it's Jefferson but can't remember WHICH barbary state he said it in relation to
...and you know the rest
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
Ok, maybe it was Adams...?
Originally posted by Pontiuth Pilate
2. The French joined the American Revolution on Washington's side after [blank], emissary to the King of France, informed him of America's recent victory at the Battle of [blank].
5. America twice attempted to invade [blank] and failed totally; a humiliation they compensate for today by ridiculing said nation mercilessly
1. Benjamin Franklin, Saratoga
5. Canada?
bobgote
Trousers
I think that every Australian high school student would recognise what the terms "Gallipoli" or "Kokoda" meant, even if they didn't know exactly what had happened. Not quite sure, but probably the Light Horse charge (the last recorded cavalry charge in history - performed by a non-cavalry unit 
) at Beersheba would be remembered by a few.
While I wouldn't expect kids to know a lot of our history (and most of our military history is not taught at school), still, they would know what a fair bit of it means. Australian History at high school was all convict this, and gold rush that, and bushranger whatever, but our military history is the best history we have (not to mention the most interesting).
BTW I went to the War Memorial on Sunday.
I would encourage every Australian on these forums to go visit. (and any visitors, if you come to Canberra). It is a great place to visit and there is an abundance of stuff there. Stories, Dioramas, artefacts (i guess you could call them this) - it is a great look into our history. Very emotional stuff. It would take days to look through it all.
) at Beersheba would be remembered by a few.While I wouldn't expect kids to know a lot of our history (and most of our military history is not taught at school), still, they would know what a fair bit of it means. Australian History at high school was all convict this, and gold rush that, and bushranger whatever, but our military history is the best history we have (not to mention the most interesting).
BTW I went to the War Memorial on Sunday.
I would encourage every Australian on these forums to go visit. (and any visitors, if you come to Canberra). It is a great place to visit and there is an abundance of stuff there. Stories, Dioramas, artefacts (i guess you could call them this) - it is a great look into our history. Very emotional stuff. It would take days to look through it all.
History_Buff
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HOLY CRAP
I probably know some of those people. I fell lucky enought that i could accurately describe all of those events to you, except ofr Kapyong, but it really kinda sad that that could be seen as a really good thing.
I probably know some of those people. I fell lucky enought that i could accurately describe all of those events to you, except ofr Kapyong, but it really kinda sad that that could be seen as a really good thing.
Plexus
Architeuthidae puericomedentis
1a. Towns
1b. Landmarks
2a. Franklin
2b. -
3a. Yalta
3b. WWII (European Theatre?)
3c. FDR
4a. Jefferson
4b. France
5. Tripoli?
1b. Landmarks
2a. Franklin
2b. -
3a. Yalta
3b. WWII (European Theatre?)
3c. FDR
4a. Jefferson
4b. France
5. Tripoli?
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
Oh yeah, whoops, Saratoga.
Pontiuth Pilate
Republican Jesus!
Answers:
1. Rivers, Towns.
2. Franklin, Saratoga.
3. Yalta, WWII, FDR
4. This was a trick question! The saying was uttered by President JEFFERSON, but was coined by Pinckney [a diplomat to the country which demanded tribute, FRANCE, with whom a quasi-war developed after the XYZ affair, in which French diplomats demaded bribes before they would negotiate]. Only later did Jefferson use the SAME motto as his rallying cry against the Barbary Pirates of Tripoli and Algiers, who had kidnapped American sailors and were demanding ransoms. Don't worry if you didn't get this one
5. Canada.
1. Rivers, Towns.
2. Franklin, Saratoga.
3. Yalta, WWII, FDR
4. This was a trick question! The saying was uttered by President JEFFERSON, but was coined by Pinckney [a diplomat to the country which demanded tribute, FRANCE, with whom a quasi-war developed after the XYZ affair, in which French diplomats demaded bribes before they would negotiate]. Only later did Jefferson use the SAME motto as his rallying cry against the Barbary Pirates of Tripoli and Algiers, who had kidnapped American sailors and were demanding ransoms. Don't worry if you didn't get this one
5. Canada.
Pontiuth Pilate
Republican Jesus!
Not quite sure, but probably the Light Horse charge (the last recorded cavalry charge in history - performed by a non-cavalry unit ) at Beersheba would be remembered by a few.
Are you sure? I thought the Light Horse Brigade charged in some battle in the Crimean War; surely cavalry were also involved in WW1? I know at least the Hungarians and the Ottomans still had cavalry at that time.
Are you sure? I thought the Light Horse Brigade charged in some battle in the Crimean War; surely cavalry were also involved in WW1? I know at least the Hungarians and the Ottomans still had cavalry at that time.
D'oh! Too late....oh well...I knew most of these anyway.
Rivers.....Bull Run.....Towns....One of the many places that ended in "burg" in the south.
Canada was embarrassing, Montreal, Quebec, York (Toronto, I believe)...We need more quizzes.
Rivers.....Bull Run.....Towns....One of the many places that ended in "burg" in the south.
Canada was embarrassing, Montreal, Quebec, York (Toronto, I believe)...We need more quizzes.
Cavalry was by and large obsolete by World War I. They were probably used by some, but they would be ripped apart by machine guns and trenches. I do know that cavalry was used in the Arab theatre with the Arab revolt against the Ottomans. It worked well when the Arabs did a surprise charge into Aqaba and captured the port with few casualties.
