What's going to be the fifth economic civic?

[Willowmound]

Hmmm, yeah they make jokes about us since they resent the fact that we used to own their country... MOHAHAHA!

And now you're the poorest country in Scandinavia... "mwahahaha".

 

[kolpo]

Mercantilism sounds interesting. The lack of foreign trade shall lower you money, but the free specialist could be used to raise production(with engineer) and extra production can be very usefull in many situations.

representation gives +3 science for each specialist, so if you would use Represenation + Mercantilism could you raise production without losing too much science

or for the real "specialist mania": caste system(unlimited specialists) + represenation(+3 science each specialist) + mercanlism(1 free specialist). It is great how many possibilities this civic system opens and it is cool that even unconventional combinations sound viable.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

actually certain combinations are favored/unfavored because of the synergy

Representation gets a bonus from Caste system or Mercantilism (more specialists+better specialists)

Universal Suffrage and Free Speech get a bonus from Emancipation (faster towns+better towns)

Hereditary Rule is ineffective with Pacifism (happiness from units v. expensive units)

Representation also works well with Bureaucracy (happy big cities +productive capital..hopefully one of the big cities=super capital)

Also Freedom of Religion + Representation (+10% science + extra science per specialist ..unless those Don't compound)

 

[kolpo]

actually certain combinations are favored/unfavored because of the synergy

Representation gets a bonus from Caste system or Mercantilism (more specialists+better specialists)

Universal Suffrage and Free Speech get a bonus from Emancipation (faster towns+better towns)

Hereditary Rule is ineffective with Pacifism (happiness from units v. expensive units)

Representation also works well with Bureaucracy (happy big cities +productive capital..hopefully one of the big cities=super capital)

Also Freedom of Religion + Representation (+10% science + extra science per specialist ..unless those Don't compound)

Yes thought there are a lot of combinations who sound viabele.

About Hereditary Rule + Pacifism. Pacifism raises the support cost for each military unit BUT I believe that there are also civics who give you a number of free units/city. So if you take a civic with many free units/city + hereditary rule + pacifism could you have a lot of free units who make your people happy, only when you go above your "free unit cap" shall you need to pay the extra cost(if I understand pacifism correctly)

 

[KrikkitTwo]

I haven't seen any civics that give unit support. I mean there were in civ 1-3, but Civ 4 might require support for all military units.
Note: also no evidence of civics that affect war weariness (I'm personally hoping all of them have War weariness, with one or two civics that lower it Maybe Police state...which might also give those free units... which would mean Police State would have a positive synergy with Pacifism...by negating a prt of its penalty (free units are better when units cost more)

 

[GarretSidzaka]

US:

Police State
Bureaucracy
Castes
Free Market
Organized Religion

 

[Gazaridis]

EU:
Hereditary Rule
Bureaucracy
Serfdom
Mercantlism
Pacifisim

 

[Martinus]

Soviet Russia:

Universal Suffrage
Free Speech
Emancipation
State Property
Freedom of Religion

 

[Stratofortress]

USSR:
Despotism
Bureaucracy
Slavery
State Property
Freedom of Religion

 

[Besuchov]

A third atempt then...

USSR:
Police State
Bureaucracy
Emancipation (there is a differens between not voting and being a slave...)
State Property
Freedom of Religion

 

[evil_linus]

And now you're the poorest country in Scandinavia... "mwahahaha".

but we have a best soccer and icehockeys teams in Scandinavia!

 

[elrfag]

EU:
Hereditary Rule
Bureaucracy
Serfdom
Mercantlism
Pacifisim

But how very true it is

 

[Ozymandous]

wish america had some socialism going for it...for a country that claims to be the most "free" there is illegal everything- but at least we have high crime and high teenage birth rates to compensate

More socialism? So the government can step in and run your life more and/or make you more dependant on it so you have even elss options in your life?

Umm.. NO! Some of us like the freedom to choose, thank you and I sure as hell don't want my hard earned money paying for someone who doesn't want to go out and bust hump to make a life for themselves, thanks.

 

[GarretSidzaka]

More socialism? So the government can step in and run your life more and/or make you more dependant on it so you have even elss options in your life? - Ozymandous

Hmm, socialism has been puked on in the last, oh, few decades. I think that troytheface might be refering to "libertarian" or "liberal" socialism. It is very similar to leftist Marxism, but not to the soviet union. The soviet union was not socialism, it was a labor-army dictatorship. Liberal Socialism is a little closer to anarcho-syndiclism in aim and goal, but just a wee bit less free-form. If you believe in freedom from authoritarianism or being pushed around, and believe in a system where people are first, not corporations and bureaus, you might just be a liberal socialist. I take it a step further, and am a anarcho-syndiclist, after such minds as R. Rocker, Bakunin, and Chomsky. But I might tell people that im a Libertarian socialist.

whew

 

[Corvex]

How will the 'decentralized' Economic civic work?

 

[Mujadaddy]

at least we have high crime and high teenage birth rates to compensate

I'm doing my part to contribute to both