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[R&F] Whats your favorite Rise and Fall Leader or Civ?

Whats your favorite?

  • Lautaro

    Votes: 17 8.8%
  • Robert the Bruce

    Votes: 25 13.0%
  • Poundmaker

    Votes: 57 29.5%
  • Chandragupta

    Votes: 4 2.1%
  • Genghis Khan

    Votes: 17 8.8%
  • Seondoek

    Votes: 15 7.8%
  • Shaka

    Votes: 15 7.8%
  • Wilhelmina

    Votes: 15 7.8%
  • Tamar

    Votes: 28 14.5%

  • Total voters
    193
Shaka is my favorite because I love warmongering, but when I play peacefully Seondoek is pretty incredible. You’re pretty much guaranteed to lead in science with her.
 
I have only played two games so far, but I think I've found my favorite already. I just had a sub-200 turn win on immortal, standard sized map by playing a religion focused Tamar with Yerevan as suzerain. 400 faith per turn from 7 cities is crazy.

Edit: Also, it's a good thing I finished this early, because we got into the Industrial Era, which doesn't have a dedication for religion anymore, so I'd have without doubt fallen into a Dark Age after as I was behind on both science and culture.
 
Shaka is my favorite because I love warmongering, but when I play peacefully Seondoek is pretty incredible. You’re pretty much guaranteed to lead in science with her.
I agree with you. But Korea is pretty bland for me. Peacefully, I would do the Netherlands or Georgia probably. But Warmongering I would so Robert the Bruce, Lautaro, or Genghis Khan.
 
I feel like Tamar got the most complaints about design, but she appears to be a fan favorite.

I like her too (#2), but dang those bagpipes wreck house. Had to go with the Bruce.
 
Surprised to see Poundmaker leading. He has some nice perks, but as far as I see it, nothing that really gives you any advantage to set you up to win. I haven’t played with him yet though so maybe I’m missing something.
 
Shaka is my favorite because I love warmongering, but when I play peacefully Seondoek is pretty incredible. You’re pretty much guaranteed to lead in science with her.

Since the science advantage comes early on & campuses are half cost, you can directly apply it to military techs & play Korea as warmongers. Just think about how long it takes until Shaka gets his corps & how fast you can beeline knights with Korea.

I agree with you. But Korea is pretty bland for me. Peacefully, I would do the Netherlands or Georgia probably. But Warmongering I would so Robert the Bruce, Lautaro, or Genghis Khan.

The funny thing is that I like Korea exactly because it is "bland" :) But each his own.
 
I voted for Chinggis Khaan as I love the Mongols but Tamar is also a lot of fun. Chaining golden ages is great. After the ancient era, you can pretty well stay in a Golden Age for the rest of the game.
 
Surprised to see Poundmaker leading. He has some nice perks, but as far as I see it, nothing that really gives you any advantage to set you up to win. I haven’t played with him yet though so maybe I’m missing something.

This is a vote for favorite, not necessarily best.

Poundmaker is great for builder types. He allows for fast early growth in multiple cities.

The + food per camp/pasture is huge if you have 2+ camps and pastures. Get your second and third cities down, use your traders to get food from capital and expand your tiles while building the UI to keep housing flowing.
 
I voted for Wilhelmina.
I love playing Civs that don't have a particular path to follow but can use good adjacency bonuses to their advantages and see where it goes from there.
And you can't build polders with anyone else. They're useful and pretty to look at. The prettiest looking improvement by far.
 
Oh... I voted King Tamar, you know?
She is such a female king Jadwiga.
 
Scotland is by far the best civ.
 
Poundmaker is the most fun that I've played as so far, but I haven't gotten around to playing most of them yet.

I haven't played as Scotland yet, but that was the only civ out of the whole bunch that I was disappointed with. I think they've decreased the matrix glow of his eyes a little since the FL, but I still dislike his design and the civ's uniques.

Surprised to see Poundmaker leading. He has some nice perks, but as far as I see it, nothing that really gives you any advantage to set you up to win. I haven’t played with him yet though so maybe I’m missing something.
I don't know if I speak for the majority that voted for him, but I don't see perks for making the game easier to win all that valuable from an entertainment standpoint. The Mekewap is very powerful though, and the production bonus takes away one of the game's potentially grueling aspects. He/the Cree are also pretty different from any of the other civs introduced so far.
 
Korean for her well made animations and looks. They are a lot better than Mongolian or Zulus leaders, for instance.

Also, the Netherlands leader is made very well. She is unique and really fun etc.
 
I voted Robert Bruce of Scotland as the best expansion leader, given his historical significance in helping the French people during the Hundred Years war with England. I am very happy the devs selected Robert Bruce, instead of someone like William Wallace.

However, I am confused why the devs didn't use the famous "Robert Bruce March" or "Scots Wha Hae" as the anthem, instead of the more modern Scotland the Brave. "Scots Wha Hae" was the unofficial national anthem for centuries, and would have been a very good choice. Robert Bruce is reported to have used the tune "Hey Tuttie Tatie" in battle against the English and Robert Burns later adapted it when crafting the famous "Scots Wha Hae".

If the devs could create an alternative leader for France, then the game would be even better. Charles Martel, Charles VII, Joan of Arc, Louis XIV or even Charles de Gaulle would be better choices than the one chosen by the Devs.

Given that my direct ancestor was from the Normandy-Perche area, I think an alternate French leader with a Norman or Perche flavor, would make a perfect addition to the Civ VI game.
 
Had to change my vote. Originally voted for Genghis Khan as he was the only one I had played when I first voted. But now playing as the Cree, I'm having a lot of fun. Of course there are still 7 others out there, so who knows. Their uu isn't that great, but that first promotion is pretty cool. It helps explore faster. Just don't try taking on camps by yourself without the discipline card. Their UI on the other hand is pretty awesome.
 
So far, it's Tamar. Trying to string together Golden Ages just appeals to me.
 
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