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Which alternative Egyptian leader(s) would you like to see?

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by halfhalfharp, Jan 21, 2018.

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Which alternative Egyptian leader would you like to have?

  1. Hatshepsut

    13 vote(s)
    39.4%
  2. Rameses II

    15 vote(s)
    45.5%
  3. Nefertiti/Akenaten

    9 vote(s)
    27.3%
  4. others (please specify in your reply)

    11 vote(s)
    33.3%
  5. Sneferu

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  6. Amenhotep III

    5 vote(s)
    15.2%
  7. Thutmose III

    4 vote(s)
    12.1%
  8. Narmer/Menes

    5 vote(s)
    15.2%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. halfhalfharp

    halfhalfharp Chieftain

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    Emmm.... If we give him a production bonus over improving these resources, it will crash with amanitore's ability.

    I think an ability that gives extra bonus in resources harvesting will fit him here. I think my design of Sneferu also fits him too? Since they did very similar things. I will place Khufu together with Sneferu in the list, do you agree?
     
  2. Lord Lakely

    Lord Lakely Unintentionally a feminist.

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    Ehh, it's actually nice to have an ability similar (but different) to Cleo's for an Egyptian alt leader. Look at Pericles and Gorgo, who both are culture, but different means of acquiring it. But Cleo's ability could always be retconned into something more useful:

    Mediterranean's Bride: Maintaining an alliance of any type grants Cleopatra and her ally a free military unit every 50 turns. The timer decreases by 10 for every level of the alliance (50/40/30)

    True, but you're not going to add more than one Pharaoh from 18th dynasty to a Civ game, so it's quite safe to assign that ability to her or any Pharaoh of her dynasty. The ability itself could be buffed having Hattie unlock all the archeology related stuff earlier (around Civil Service) than normal.
     
  3. Naktis

    Naktis Chieftain

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    Does India had any good choice for female leader ?
    Because for Egypt add second female leader , when there is plenty good male options would be sad.
     
  4. halfhalfharp

    halfhalfharp Chieftain

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    There will never be lack of options if you have to dig deeper into history, although I dont really know.

    We don't need to balance the gender for alt leader I guess...we are not playing rpg games that offer us male/female choices for the protagonist.

    But the other pharaohs are also good options too, regardless of being male or female. Thats what makes this choice difficult:p
     
  5. Lord Lakely

    Lord Lakely Unintentionally a feminist.

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    Indira Gandhi is always an option for a Nuke-Happy Gandhi. She's the only woman I would consider though.
     
  6. halfhalfharp

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    Ohhh she will be a nice leader for that purpose, too bad that Gandhi is already here.
     
  7. halfhalfharp

    halfhalfharp Chieftain

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    I wonder if they will adjust her ability to that much... But I also hope that she can be buffed, maybe tied to the new diplomatic bonus mechanism.
     
  8. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    Cleo‘s ability changed somewhat. The trade routes now generate extra alliance points.
     
  9. halfhalfharp

    halfhalfharp Chieftain

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    Really? where did you get this piece of information?
     
  10. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    I saw it in a live stream of R&F. Writing Bull hovered fast over almost all leaders. I didn't take the time to pause everywhere, but I got Cleo's change.
     
  11. halfhalfharp

    halfhalfharp Chieftain

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    That sounds great. Although I don't think that they will change much in the kit, I still have hope haha.

    Rounding up the responses, Ramsey seems to gain the mainstream of supports, although Akhenaten, Amenhotep III, Hatshepsut also has their respective supporters.
    Emmm... much to my expectations as well.
     
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  12. Japper007

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    I think Thuthmosis III would be an awesome way to get a more militaristic Egypt. Currently their leader bonus is pretty situational, even in peaceful games. Maybe some bonus to the Chariot Archers? +1 movement would make them a lot more viable. Or maybe something to do with monument destruction :mischief:
     
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  13. Vahnstad

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    Akhenaten, Hatshepsut or Ramesses II. Maybe Amenhotep III. I would prefer a more famous pharaoh from the 18th or 19th dynasty and is not Tutanchamon.
     
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  14. halfhalfharp

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    Indeed, Egypt is quite weak in military currently. A leader excel at conquest will surely boost things up. Thut III with monument destruction lol, I can hear Hatshepsut's weil already.
     
  15. kerrigan1603

    kerrigan1603 Chieftain

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    I’ll suggested Khedive Isma'il Pasha (Ismail the Magnificent), Khedive Muhammad Ail, Mohammed Naguib or Gamal Abdel Nasser Hussein or Malik Fuad I and Muhammad Anwar el-Sadat, just something to be different, something that’s never be done before.
    If it’s Nasser then have a Civ that’s move focused on the military side of things.
     
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  16. Morningcalm

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    Thutmose III, the "Napoleon of Egypt" who transformed Egypt into an international superpower, or Senusret III, he who presided over a Golden Age in Egypt. Both were mighty warrior pharaohs who also accomplished much outside of their military successes. Senusret could get a unique encampment that adds commercial or trade bonuses given the role of his forts in Nubia in spreading trade.

    As much discussed in earlier threads in this forum, I despise Akhenaten and his puny, failed kingship. I will personally instigate an endless circus of whining if he ever appears in Civ as Egypt's main leader.
     
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  17. Zaarin

    Zaarin My Dearest Doctor

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    Wrong Egypt. That would be like George Washington leading the Powhatan, Elizabeth II leading the Megalith Builders, Nikita Gorbachev leading Kievan Rus', or Kim Il-Sung leading Goguryeo. :sad:
     
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  18. halfhalfharp

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    I think Thutmose III is a good option as well. But considering the short window of the chariot archers and that chariot archers are not particularly strong, maybe he will need a general boost in military, as well as balancing the wonder building trend. That will be quite challenging.

    I would like to see Thut III after a buff in the UU.
     
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  19. kerrigan1603

    kerrigan1603 Chieftain

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    Last time i check, this wasn't a thread about alternative leaders of Ancient Egypt but alternative leaders of Egypt period.:confused: If that is the case then i'll suggest add the word ancient to the word egyptian on the title of the thread.
     
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  20. halfhalfharp

    halfhalfharp Chieftain

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    Oops, I suppose everyone knows this civ is about Ancient Egypt... like when we say America, we are not referring to the first nations?
     
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