Which Great Works do you want to see?

[MisterBoomBoom]

I would have to say I am only hoping for one...Perfect for the game too:

Guernica by Picasso

 

[ahawk]

If Britney Spears is a Great Musician, then 'Hit Me Baby One More Time'.
If Elvis is a Great Musician, then 'Little Less Conversation'.
If Ludacris is a Great Musician, then '#1 Spot'.
If Eminem is a Great Musician, then 'Stan'.

If Tom Clancy is a Great Author, then 'Rainbow 6'.
If Michael Crighton is a Great Author, then 'Jurassic Park'.
If (highly likely) Chaucer is a Great Author, then 'Canterburry Tails'.

If there are any Great Film-makers, then Ed Wood, and 'Plan 9 from Outer Space'.

Some of this I am kidding about. Only some.

 

[Hakan-i Cihan]

Well a non-western literate work that comes into my mind is the Masnavi of Jalal al-Din Muhammad Rumi.

A short description from wikipedia:
The Masnavi is a poetic collection of rambling anecdotes and stories derived from the Quran, hadith sources, and everyday tales. Stories are told to illustrate a point and each moral is discussed in detail. It incorporates a variety of Islamic wisdom but primarily focuses on emphasizing inward personal Sufi interpretation. This work by Rumi is referred to as a “sober” Sufi text. It reasonably presents the various dimensions of Sufi spiritual life and advises disciples on their spiritual paths. “More generally, it is aimed at anyone who has time to sit down and ponder the meaning of life and existence.

Other great works can be taken from al-Ghazali or al-Kindi.

 

[cfkane]

For music, I'm guessing these would be included:

Bach - The Brandenburg Concertos
Mozart - Don Giovanni
Wagner - Das Nibelungenleid
Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue
Stravinsky - The Rite of Spring
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Allegri - Miserere
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band

But that's a horribly Euro-centric list. Anyone know any world classical music that can be included?

 

[ShahJahanII]

I don't know why I didn't mention these earlier: The Mahabharta and Ramayana.

 

[meteo63]

Literature, at least from the West, is pretty easy, though of course we do need works from other cultures as well that are not part of the "western culture" thing because civ has always done that with wonders (though the technological progression and cultural assumptions of eras has a bit of western-centric problems). Anyway, here's my list, not at all comprehensive:

Literature (at least from the west, I don't know much about other world regions):
Iliad
Odyssey
Divine Comedy
Hamlet (or some other major Shakespearean tragedy)
The Epic of Gilgamesh
Beowulf
Ovid's Metamorphoses
Some Greek tragedies? Not sure which... Maybe Oedipus Rex as one of the more famous ones.
Aeneid
Paradise Lost

Other Possibilities:
The Viking Sagas

I'm not sure religious texts like the Bible or Koran would be included here. I myself count them as literary works but then they are likely tied not into the Great Works/tourism system but into the religion system somehow. A significant problem for many works of literature for BNW, I think, is that many of them are religious (the Divine Comedy, for example) and then it's not clear what system they would be part of.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Well, for non-European Great Works, here's a start:

- The Four Great Classics of China: Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West, Water Margin/Bandits of the Marsh, and Dream of the Red Chamber. There's also the honorary member of the Great Classics (but usually left out due to its less reserved depictions of sexuality), Jin Ping Mei
- Tale of the Heike - one of the great pieces of Japanese literature, readapted into various forms of storytelling including Noh and Kabuki
- Tale of Kieu - considered the greatest piece of Vietnamese literature, written by the man dubbed the Vietnamese Shakespeare
- The poetry of Li Po/Li Bai and Du Fu, considered the greatest poets of the Tang Dynasty and of China for that matter
- The Shahnameh, Persia's national epic of sorts
- The poetry of Rumi, Omar Khayyam, and other similar medieval Iranian poets and thinkers whose names I forgot
- 1001 Nights - probably the most well-known piece of Islamic literature throughout the world
- Secret History of the Mongols - one of the earliest literary works in the Mongol language and basically a historical chronicle of Genghis Khan and all his family and their deeds
- Epic of King Gesar - well-known epic around Tibet and Mongolia

Well, that's a start.

 

[ShahJahanII]

Some really great ideas going on here. I can only imagine how many interesting mods will come about from this.

 

[Yubnub]

For Great Musicians:
Alla Pugacheva, Amalia Rodrigues, Bjork, Edith Piaf, Elis Regina, Fairuz, Haris Alexiou, Hibari Misora, Lata Mangeshkar, Maria Callas, Mina, Miriam Makeba, Oum Kalthoum, Teresa Teng, Yma Sumac

Excepts from Chinese operas Peony Pavilion (Kunqu), Unicorn-Trapping Purse (Peking)

 

[sukritact]

Teresa Teng

月亮代表我的心 as a great work? That'd be really cool!

- The Four Great Classics of China: Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West, Water Margin/Bandits of the Marsh, and Dream of the Red Chamber. There's also the honorary member of the Great Classics (but usually left out due to its less reserved depictions of sexuality), Jin Ping Mei

I'm hoping for Romance of the Three Kingdoms, It's the most famous of the four isn't it? It's very well known here in Thailand (we know it as the สามก๊ก, literally "three kingdoms").

I just remembered of Aesop's Fables, anyone think that should get in?

 

[cybrxkhan]

I'm hoping for Romance of the Three Kingdoms, It's the most famous of the four isn't it? It's very well known here in Thailand (we know it as the สามก๊ก, literally "three kingdoms").

Thailand? That's pretty cool, seems like it's much more famous than I thought - though indeed to my knowledge it is the most well-known of the four (though Journey to the West I've heard is also well-known - the other two not as much). I thought it was only really well-known across East Asia (i.e. China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, the Sinosphere essentially) - I'm Vietnamese and my dad told me how he read and loved it when he was a kid back in Vietnam.

I think even here in the West the Three Kingdoms have some public recognition, if only because of Dynasty Warriors (and a few of the big-budget Chinese films that've come out in the past few years having to do with it), so I think the Three Kingdoms would definitely be a very good addition.

 

[JanghanHong]

I learned of the Romance of Three Kingdoms through the Koei's strategy game. People in the west would know about it through Koei's spinoff fighting game. As much as China whines about Japan, I really did find more about China's culture through Japanese media.

 

[kingchris20]

Some really great ideas going on here. I can only imagine how many interesting mods will come about from this.

U and I both!

 

[Calouste]

War and Peace by Tolstoy. Besides being rather famous, the title is also very appropriate for a civ game.

 

[sukritact]

I learned of the Romance of Three Kingdoms through the Koei's strategy game.

We had a series of Korean comic books that were translated into Thai. , that's how I read it. I have the English version of the book, the the language seems very dry.

Unfortunately, in the west you tend to hear more about the Art of War for some reason...

 

[sickVisionz]

Thriller album by Michael Jackson and Baby One More Time by Britney Spears. I really hope there is modern stuff in this expansion. A lot of people will knock pop music but when it comes to spreading culture globally, it's hard to discredit the impact this stuff has.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

I'm hoping that it's true that we can actually VIEW these artwork, that'd be sweet and rather very educational.

 

[JanghanHong]

I'm hoping that it's true that we can actually VIEW these artwork, that'd be sweet and rather very educational.

I was hoping that too, that would make it so all the great works chosen is in the public domain, so all the artists have been dead for 50-75 years. You could actually include actual mp3 of great music and a chapter of great literature without paying anyone.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

A 10 second preview of a clip, or a quotation from the literatural would be amazing, but I'd say the artworks would be the best.

Personally, I would love Nighthawks to be one of the paintings.

I'm also curious wether or not we'll be able to pick which artworks we put in or if it's all randomized.

 

[El Caballerion]

Symphonic works. Plenty of them. Examples include (chronologically):

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  Bach's Brandenburg Concertos
  Vivaldi's Four Seasons
  Mozart's Requiem
  Beethoven's 9th Symphony
  Wagner's Ring Cycle
  Mahler's 2nd Symphony
  Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker
  Debussy's Claire de Lune
  Stravinsky's Rite of Spring
  Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue
  Philip Glass' Einstein on the Beach
  Adams' Harmonielehre