While We Wait: Part 2
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hilarious.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
When looking at Strategic Command Center NESing I laugh because they are making baby steps this community made years ago.
Symphony D.
Deity
Are they to be played while riding a pwny?It has been pointed out long ago that it is, as a matter of fact, a NESy.
You genuinely expect a large group of people on the Internet to learn from the experiences of others?
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
If they attempt the same thing and fail to do so then yes.
This exact sentiment, more or less verbatim (except switch SCC for CFC), was said to me by certain people from The Frontier way back when they invaded.
Symphony D.
Deity
Interesting.
Swissempire
Poet Jester
But its not true.....?
Whereas Frontier has engineered complex NESes that are no longer games and eliminated most stories, and have only constructed a weird fanatical, rigid elite of ho-hum players who's elitest attitudes make Symphony D look like Birdjaguar
Whereas SCC is just now discovering the Basics of Das's first NES2 rules and is attempting to start a modern NES in which every update is a day
Therefore Be It Reolved by the real NESers here assembled that we are superior.
Whereas Frontier has engineered complex NESes that are no longer games and eliminated most stories, and have only constructed a weird fanatical, rigid elite of ho-hum players who's elitest attitudes make Symphony D look like Birdjaguar
Whereas SCC is just now discovering the Basics of Das's first NES2 rules and is attempting to start a modern NES in which every update is a day
Therefore Be It Reolved by the real NESers here assembled that we are superior.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
A certain someone, who for protection reasons I will not name, has also recently told me how inferior CFC NESing is to the Frontier. I object to all his statements and so far he has shown me zero facts. Besides the one that they think inferior and ugly maps are okay and no change is needed.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
That is technically true.
On another note, the synchronicity of the tongue sticking out smileys is disturbing. (How do they know?)
EDIT: That's weird. They stopped being synchronized after I posted this edit. And then became synchronized again when I refreshed.
On another note, the synchronicity of the tongue sticking out smileys is disturbing. (How do they know?)
EDIT: That's weird. They stopped being synchronized after I posted this edit. And then became synchronized again when I refreshed.
Symphony D.
Deity
1) Whose,
2) I've got some pretty good arguments for my positions, and
3)
At the risk of tooting the patriotism horn, the only advantages the Frontier really has from where I'm sitting is a more professional atmosphere and fewer hormone driven players.
That could be one reason why they look down on you.Some of us think that technically inferior maps are okay too.
Then again Western culture at this point would rather have top-round every night than wagyu of fillet mignon every other night, and would rather pay twice as much to get a class where they never have to show up and automatically get an A (imagine if cars or houses worked like that?), so I'm not terribly surprised at encountering the sentiment and I'm supposedly an elitist and all, so what would I know?
The sentiments shared to me by certain Frontier individuals (none of whom have stayed around I might add) were certainly given from an elitistic vantage point, but that doesn't mean that they were not correct. What was said was that what we here at CFC are doing now is what they were doing several years back. They have since evolved into something else, and the arguments were on the technical side rather than content.
The fact that they use a whole subforum for each game clearly has several benefits. As an example, each nation has its own thread that only the player and the mod can read and post in, making the sharing of stats that aren't meant to be public so much easier. So yes, they are "more advanced" in that aspect. Better? I would No telling, personally I prefer the more lightweight games we run here, and the atmosphere we have here (and yes, I've been a casual lurker over there for a while now), but I wouldn't mind some of those technical inovations.
I also got the impression that they found our rulesets to be less evolved than theirs. I have done some comparisons, and I don't agree. Their systems (like in TBW) are different, but not necessarily better.
Overall, are we "better" than them? I would say a definite yes, but not for any reasons to do with games or technical details. We are better simply because we are a healthier, more vibrant community. They have severe problems with participation, partly because their games are huge behemoths that it is hard to get into for a newcomer (and partly because they are a lot less welcoming to prospective newbies than we are - I'm still waiting to get my username approved over there (not holding my breath)). And the atmosphere over there between participants is not something I would like to be a part of (be grateful to Thunderfall and our "draconic" mods). Another point in case - several of them stayed around here to play in our games, while to my knowledge no CFCer participates in anything at The Frontier.
EDIT: xpost with Symphony, I definitely don't agree with him about the atmosphere over there, nor the relative amount of hormone driven players.
The fact that they use a whole subforum for each game clearly has several benefits. As an example, each nation has its own thread that only the player and the mod can read and post in, making the sharing of stats that aren't meant to be public so much easier. So yes, they are "more advanced" in that aspect. Better? I would No telling, personally I prefer the more lightweight games we run here, and the atmosphere we have here (and yes, I've been a casual lurker over there for a while now), but I wouldn't mind some of those technical inovations.
I also got the impression that they found our rulesets to be less evolved than theirs. I have done some comparisons, and I don't agree. Their systems (like in TBW) are different, but not necessarily better.
Overall, are we "better" than them? I would say a definite yes, but not for any reasons to do with games or technical details. We are better simply because we are a healthier, more vibrant community. They have severe problems with participation, partly because their games are huge behemoths that it is hard to get into for a newcomer (and partly because they are a lot less welcoming to prospective newbies than we are - I'm still waiting to get my username approved over there (not holding my breath)). And the atmosphere over there between participants is not something I would like to be a part of (be grateful to Thunderfall and our "draconic" mods). Another point in case - several of them stayed around here to play in our games, while to my knowledge no CFCer participates in anything at The Frontier.
EDIT: xpost with Symphony, I definitely don't agree with him about the atmosphere over there, nor the relative amount of hormone driven players.
Daftpanzer
canonically ambiguous
Please excuse my ignorance, but what is this 'Frontier' of which you speak?
Symphony D.
Deity
I said from where I was sitting. I only gave it a cursory investigation when they first showed up. It looked marginally better than the other, scarier origin points, and was displayed somewhat nicely. Since you've lurked there more, I'll take your word for it, in which case they have no advantages.EDIT: xpost with Symphony, I definitely don't agree with him about the atmosphere over there, nor the relative amount of hormone driven players.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Do you remember those guys who came in back in like April in a large group and founded a Boundless World NES? Them.
Abaddon
Deity
why did they dissapear again? except 1 or 2?
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
We are to good a community for their tastes.
To my knowledge there are still four around that came from The Frontier (MadDogOfMI, Massive Attack, Fulton, Shadowbound). The rest disappeared because their game here died (the mod got a job) and they weren't really interested in the games we had to offer here (though to be honest I think a lot of them joined Sheep's then-already-more-or-less-dead Modern Battlefields).
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