While We Wait: Part 3

[das]

Historical? I am there, I've been hankering after something historical for a while now.

I'm very keen on making this as historical as I could.

Who gets to be David?

Israelite isn't here and erez87 is probably untrustworthy ( ). It would seem that you have an eye on that position, though.

how long are turns going to be

Not yet sure, I'm presently thinking 20/25 years for the beginning, but maybe shorter.

what's the story on IT/BT

I'm going to try and see if I could do without it. And yes, the ruleset is going to be very different, so as to keep this from being a pure war game (which partly made that system necessary in the first place).

will we be able to factionalize

Depends on what do you mean, exactly.

will it be a truncated map for just the Middle East or a world map with like an inset or something?

Just a world map seems more feasible, especially since I'm going to be adding new areas. Which world map would be a more interesting question.

 

[Dachs]

It would seem that you have an eye on that position, though.

Maybe. Assyria needs to be revived, too, though.

I'm going to try and see if I could do without it. And yes, the ruleset is going to be very different, so as to keep this from being a pure war game (which partly made that system necessary in the first place).

When a power with as many domestic problems and political squabbles as Thuringia/Gallien manages to fight three victorious wars virtually by itself, and vastly expand into the bargain, over a period of but seventy years, then yeah, it's a bit too much of a war game. (Not that I'm complaining; I like fighting too, but am sort of interested in a more realistic simulation.)

Depends on what do you mean, exactly.

The ability to have multiple PC factions in one country, with stats and everything? Frankly I'm not too sure of what I mean either.

Just a world map seems more feasible, especially since I'm going to be adding new areas. Which world map would be a more interesting question.

"Adding new areas" briefly made me think of that double planet from the thing in Alternate History Thread IV and the Creative Writing Thread. I vote for any of the new (NK's and Symphony D.'s; either will do so long as it isn't the current amalgamated "Jason" map) maps, hopefully after we have haphazardly added new rivers to Europe (that oughtn't be too critical for awhile, but still...).

 

[Abaddon]

I always worry when a mod plans their next NES.. means they have already lost their heart in their current one, an that it now is a ticking til close

 

[das]

When a power with as many domestic problems and political squabbles as Thuringia/Gallien manages to fight three victorious wars virtually by itself, and vastly expand into the bargain, over a period of but seventy years, then yeah, it's a bit too much of a war game. (Not that I'm complaining; I like fighting too, but am sort of interested in a more realistic simulation.)

That's the plan, and that's why I intend to make a whole new ruleset for this one.

The ability to have multiple PC factions in one country, with stats and everything? Frankly I'm not too sure of what I mean either.

Multiple PC factions? Sure, why not. Stats? Not in particular, except perhaps very rudimentary and as part of the nation stats.

One thing that I do intend to have is a province and vassal state system, with playable vassal states (duh, that's how the Achaemenid Empire came about).

"Adding new areas" briefly made me think of that double planet from the thing in Alternate History Thread IV and the Creative Writing Thread.

"That is not the right path. We shall go by a different path."

I vote for any of the new (NK's and Symphony D.'s; either will do so long as it isn't the current amalgamated "Jason" map) maps, hopefully after we have haphazardly added new rivers to Europe (that oughtn't be too critical for awhile, but still...).

Well, yes, that's my present idea as well.

I always worry when a mod plans their next NES.. means they have already lost their heart in their current one, an that it now is a ticking til close

At least you had ample warning.

 

[Abaddon]

Pssh! i like to believe a NES will stick to its title!

 

[das]

Technically, it will only be a hiatus, and once again, I gave you ample warning of that too.

 

[Abaddon]

Cool cool, i know its nieve, but i like to hold on to such beliefs while i can

Things finally cranking into gear with the Jomon arrival after all

 

[das]

What I meant was that this belief is not necessarily mistaken. I did bring back one other such NES from hiatus once, though it went back there again after one IT.

 

[Luckymoose]

Why are you complaining? I am having the time of my NESing life and it is all coming to an end. Long live Sitivasas.

 

[Abaddon]

Why would I complain that you are having the time of your NESing life and that it is all coming to an end? I'll complain about my own problems not yours!

 

[~Darkening~]

I would draw comparisons with other users but that would be a rules violation. And no, Darkening the Ever Paranoid, I'm not talking about you, before you start.

Actually, I've become increadibly lax lately (hence the complete surprise of Rynt in Birdnes 2). So no, I'm not that paranoid- exaggerations have been told .

 

[Luckymoose]

Why would I complain that you are having the time of your NESing life and that it is all coming to an end? I'll complain about my own problems not yours!

Because you were complaining that the NES is ending. I have more reason to complain than you.

 

[Abaddon]

Why have you more reason to complain?

 

[Luckymoose]

Why have you more reason to complain?

Because I have for the first time ever made myself into a top competitor. You have been doing what?

 

[Abaddon]

If we had shared the same values in that NES I doubt I would have directed myself as a native tribe in N.A. Just because I have not ammassed EP does it devalue the experience in any way.

 

[Luckymoose]

If we had shared the same values in that NES I doubt I would have directed myself as a native tribe in N.A. Just because I have not ammassed EP does it devalue the experience in any way.

Didn't you complain for most of the NES about not having EP growth and not having anything to do?

 

[Angst]

Abby's NES will probably have an EP boom soon...

 

[Abaddon]

Not quite, I did ask how I could go about growing my economy from a pitiful 2EP/turn since I was running out of ideas myself.

Regardless that nes was never a powergaming nes for me, which is rare.

 

[Abaddon]

Abby's NES will probably have an EP boom soon...

Yep, a crash test on my theory that there is nothing wrong with nations having lots of EP.

 

[The Strategos]

Multiple PC factions? Sure, why not. Stats? Not in particular, except perhaps very rudimentary and as part of the nation stats.

Perhaps have economy divided into two (or more) parts:

King's Economy:
Nobles' Economy:

It may make people more willing to focus on domestic issues when they realize that they need to have the nobility on their side if they want to maximize their spending points. Conversely, if they choose to ignore their relations, they can see just how powerful an antagonistic nobility could potentially be.