While We Wait: Part 4

[Chandrasekhar]

PikachuPanzer has a nice ring to it.

 

[Dachs]

PikachuPanzer has a nice ring to it.

And, it would allow the claim to "DNES" as a title as opposed to "DaNES" to devolve to me. Dachspmg supports this.

 

[Nuka-sama]

Is it time for a part 5?

 

[LightFang]

This is a request to anybody who has WWI, WWII, Korea, or Vietnam related digital material (read: movies, hi-res games, eg: Jarhead, Band of Brothers, Platoon, We Were Soldiers, etc): I need some infantry photos. Ideally in standard kit, armed, approximately 4:3 ratio showing them (ie: they fit within a 4:3 ratio--the image itself does not have to be 4:3 ratio). The more badass they look, and the more interesting stuff going on in the background, the better. Color is a must.

Any submissions greatly appreciated.

Here are two screenshots from World in Conflict. The first may be not focused on the infantry enough for you; I don't really know what you plan to do with these images, so I'll just submit it anyway.

Spoiler :

The second has a higher chance of being what you want, I think.

Spoiler :

Lastly, here is one I found on the Internet.

Spoiler :

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.

Edit: Oh, wait, World in Conflict is Cold War. Silly me.

 

[flyingchicken]

Edit: Oh, wait, World in Conflict is Cold War. Silly me.

Vietnam is Cold War, right?

Also: Oh Good Holy Lord, that's is why I avoid any up-to-date gaming sites with a passion! The graphics are so purrrdy and I like purrrdy graphics (that aren't choppy as an old-school butchery). I'm trying to convince myself that Half-Life (GoldSrc) is the pinnacle of FPS gaming, but pics like that (and EUIII and EU:Rome) are undermining my efforts!

 

[Nuka-sama]

Here are the Political Rules for that 1789 Nes I was talking of

Spoiler :

George Washington, with his French allies, delivered a decisive blow to the British at Yorktown. Lord Cornwallis, the British Commanding General, was in American hands. Britain, unbeatable, mighty Britain, the strongest nation in the world, had lost to the ragtag Americans. Britain gave up her North American territories, retreating to her Canadian fortress, which left the new nation a fear in the north. The nation turned to Washington to lead the new nation, the United States of America. However, before the message could be delivered, he died of pneumonia. The upcoming elections are causing political parties to form over night. The Eagles have taken flight, but who knows which ones will soar

Players: Players will play in 2 different categories; Military and Political

Political Character

Name: John Sanders (38 years old)
Position: Senator of Virginia
Location born: Williamsburg, Virginia
Party: Anti Federalist
Bio: (What your character did)

Political; Politicals will be the ones governing the United States. They are in 2 categories; Senator and Presidential

Senators: Senators are those elected by their states. They will be voting on issues from big important ones, like should Ohio become a state or should we declare War, to smaller ones, like taxes. Right now, there will be 13, (one from each state), but more if we can get more players and when we get more states

Passing a bill: Lets say Mr. Sanders wants to create the state of Ohio for whatever reason he has. He will say “I propose the territory of Ohio is made into a state” If he can get it seconded, then we can start voting., unless someone opposes it. The Opposition, let’s say James Hawk, Senator of New Hampshire, will be allowed to make an argument, saying “I say Ohio being made a state is bad, due to it will draw power from Eastern Senators” Mr. Sanders will make an argument for it, and the voting will begin. If at least half (In our case 7) approve, then the bill will be sent to the President. The President will say yay or nay. If he says yay, then Ohio will be made into a state then. If he says nay, you will need ¾ of the Senate to pass it through anyways

Impeachment: If you feel that the Current President is overstepping his bounds of authority laid down by the Constitution, then you may vote to impeach him. You need ¾ of the senate to agree to this.

Issues: Every once in a while, I will give an issue. An example would be Haiti revolts. One argument will say support the French, one side will say support the rebels, or a third side will say to stay neutral.

Seceding from the Union: If you feel that your state is being harmed by being in the United States, or think that the federal government is corrupt, or simply want to be independent, you may declare independence from the United States of America. Be warned though, the government will not take kindly to secession.

President: President, the big man. Pretty much, every three years the guy with the most electoral votes gets to be president. Campaigning, issues, party, and more will all have factors in deciding the president. The President is the chief general of the military, can ask Congress to declare war, present a bill, and veto a bill in congress.




Chief General: The President is the highest military commander in the country. You will assign troops to armies, appoint generals, suggest offensives, but you will not ever command an actual battle.

Declaring War: The President can ask Congress to declare war on nations. This is usually a good idea, because even though you can invade nations without declaring war, war declaration usually helps with Public support.

Veto a bill: Simple. If Congress passes a bill, you can veto it if you don’t like it. However, they can overturn your veto, making the public opinion towards you sour.

Massachusetts
Electoral Votes: 16
Primary Issue: Pro Britain
Secondary Issue: Pro High Tarrifs
Party: Independent

Name: This is the name of the state

Electoral votes: This is the amount of electoral votes the state has. This is a winner take all deal.

Primary Issue: The issue the state is mostly focused about. They can be specific like “Peace with Britain”, or non specific like “Slavery”

Secondary Issue: While they don’t carry as much weight as the primary issue, these still have weight in determining which way the state will go.

Party: The name of the party which is mostly dominant in the state, this will affect how the state votes too. (Say Virginia. They might be a traditionally Anti Federalist Voting state, so they may be less likely to vote for a Federalist candidate)

Campaigning: Each person running for president will be starting with $250. If you need more, you will need to throw donation parties. It costs $10 to travel to a different state. Other than that, just tell me what you want to do, and I will give you a price.

Electoral votes

Spoiler :

Massachusetts: 16
New Hampshire: 9
Rhode Island: 4
Connecticut: 9
New York: 12
New Jersey: 7
Pennsylvania: 15
Delaware: 3
Maryland: 8
Virginia: 21
North Carolina: 12
South Carolina: 8
Georgia: 4

Issues

Expansion: Expand West, Expand North, Stay at Current borders
Tariffs: Pro High Tariffs, Pro Low Tariffs
Slavery: Pro Slavery, Residence, Limited Citizenship
Foreign Policy: Pro Britain, Pro France, Isolationist
Government: Pro State governments, Pro Federal Government

Party Stats

Name:
Seats in Senate: 0
Presidential candidate:
Issues:

Name: The name of the party

Seats in Senate: How many seats your party has in the Senate

Presidential Candidate: Who will be running on your party’s ticket.

Issues: Where your party stands on the issues. I will list them

Joining a party: You have 2 options on parties. Joining one or creating one. If you wish to join one, ask the Party’s creator if you can join, and if he says yes, you may. Otherwise, you can create your own party.

If there are two people who wish to run on the same Ticket, you will have to have a preliminary election.

and the General Rules

Spoiler :

Generals, Armies, and Native Americans

Name: Lt. General Joseph Stark
Home State: Virginia
Command: Infantry
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Army: 1st Army of Northern Virginia
Bio:

Generals are the commanders on the battlefield. They will not only be Generals, but also Military governors and adventurers. They will fight Native Americans mostly, but will also probably come into conflict with more European powers. Generals can become Politicians later, turning their military fortunes into Political success.

The Generals are ordered by the President to specific locations. However you can refuse the order and become a rogue general. Other possibilities include defecting to a foreign power, starting a rebellion, or allying with Native Americans.

If a General is engaged, I will post it, and the general must give me battle orders within 24 (maybe 48) hours or he will retreat (or if he is surrounded, do battle).

Name: The name of your General

Home State: Where your character is from. It will be important when commands are appointed.

Command: What your character is the most capable of commanding. Four choices: Infantry, Cavalry, Artillery, or Balanced

Location: Where you are located

Army: What army your character is in

Bio: Your character’s history

Armies

Name: Army of Northern Virginia
Location: Northern Virginia
Commanding General: Brigadier General Gabriel Montague (Balanced)
Notable Generals: General Joseph Stark (Infantry)
Soldiers: 1000 Infantry, 500 Cavalry

Armies are created by the President, not by Generals. The President will assign troops, generals, artillery and horses.

Battles will usually be between two armies, but they will not be huge battles with the two slugging it out. They will be more like skirmishes between Generals on the first part, then whoever wins more skirmishes can usually drive the other side out

Natives

Besides the French, Spanish, and British, the Americans will be fighting the natives they took the land from. In order to make things a bit more interesting, people will be allowed to play as Native tribes

Tribe Name: Sioux
Chief: Singing Turtle
Numbers: 1000 Warriors, 300 Mounted Warriors
Living: Hunter gatherers
Horses: Yes
Weapons: Muskets
Location: South Dakota

Tribe Name: What the name of your tribe is called, preference to actual tribes

Chief: Leader of your tribe. Once again, preference to historical, but no harm if not. Just make it sound Native

Numbers: How many soldiers you have, this is standard, though if you don’t have horses, you get 1500 Warriors

Living: How your tribe makes a living. There are four possible choices. Trade, Agriculture, Hunting, and Raiding

Horses: Do you have horses? This is essential if your tribe is a raiding one. Only put horses if you are sure they would be in a location to have horses or if they historically did

Weapons: Does your tribe have muskets? Or just bows and arrows?

Location: Where your tribe is located

Note: You will never be at equal or greater weapons than the Americans and Europeans. Your advantages are in numbers and in surprise and tactics

 

[LightFang]

Vietnam is Cold War, right?

Also: Oh Good Holy Lord, that's is why I avoid any up-to-date gaming sites with a passion! The graphics are so purrrdy and I like purrrdy graphics (that aren't choppy as an old-school butchery). I'm trying to convince myself that Half-Life (GoldSrc) is the pinnacle of FPS gaming, but pics like that (and EUIII and EU:Rome) are undermining my efforts!

1. Brain fart. Although technically that ain't 'Nam either. That's the USSR invasion of USA, which never happened (I have to have this disclaimer here just in case one of you thinks it actually did occur. Although, if you're here, you probably don't think that, thank goodness.)

2. Those might not be screenshots but concept art...I didn't take those screenshots myself, since my computer can't handle World in Conflict except on Very Low.

 

[Dachs]

(I have to have this disclaimer here just in case one of you thinks it actually did occur. Although, if you're here, you probably don't think that, thank goodness.)

You can stop acting like you're in OT now.

I was debating whether to get World in Conflict or Kane's Wrath yesterday and went with Kane's Wrath. Silly LEGION - beat the game last night. It's too buggy for online play too . Probably should have gotten World in Conflict. How is it, by the way? (Even on the lowest setting.)

 

[LightFang]

World in Conflict is really fun.

First, the positions are all split up. You can focus on one of four things: Infantry, Air, Armor, or Support. You probably already know this or have heard of it, but for the benefit of people who haven't: each class gets to control some units that can be purchased from everyone as well as some specific units that are only for people in that class. For example, guess who can purchase air units? Hint: it's not infantry.

This division of labor roles allows for very good multiplayer. You have to coordinate with everyone if you want to win. You could just solo by yourself, but then your team won't win. So I'd say multiplayer is a hit or miss. If you get stupid people, you'll be frustrated. If you get smart, dynamic people, it's that much more fun. It's sort of like my experience playing Team Fortress 2, except I'd say it's easier to just solo by yourself in TF2, although for maximum utility you should really communicate.

The radio system is really intuitive. You hit it, it pops up, you choose the message, it's done. Information's not cluttered behind menus and submenus. Do you want to know how long it takes for the airstrike to hit? There's a nice floating number right there for you.

Oh, and it's not a typical RTS. You don't have to micromanage each individual unit, which is to my benefit because I suck intensely at that kind of business.

Well, that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

 

[North King]

That's the USSR invasion of USA, which never happened (I have to have this disclaimer here just in case one of you thinks it actually did occur. Although, if you're here, you probably don't think that, thank goodness.)

I'm glad the mind control is still working.

 

[Chandrasekhar]

You can stop acting like you're in OT now.

If this was the OT, he would (rightfully) assume that several of the posters did think that it had occured.

 

[Symphony D.]

Wait, wait; if the Soviets never invaded, who was I helping those Wolverines fellas shoot back in the '80s?

 

[Masada]

World in Conflict wins my vote, normally i hate with a passion 99% of all games... World In Conflict has my approval, like Victoria Revolutions and a few other titles

 

[germanicus12]

I too have World in Conflict, and personally my favorite part of the game is the 'duck and cover' aspect. When fired upon your men automatically run for cover, whether it is near tanks, buildings or some odd tree, all without your telling them to.

Also I just love the true historical aspect of the game, every weapon and tank is portrayed correctly for the time period. Truly a great game for those who enjoy RTS games.

 

[flyingchicken]

Brain fart

That's the second time someone told me that (first was a by a former teacher), probably because it's true (assuming "brain fart" addresses a "rash statement").

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Hmm, I've heard good stuff about it, but I've never tried it. I should sometime... after updating LINESII.

 

[sp1023]

I'll be checking in every once in a while, but I guarantee that I will be back in September or October. I didn't leave, I'm on hiatus due to not having regular computer access due to no hw requiring the computer.

 

[qoou]

I'll be checking in every once in a while, but I guarantee that I will be back in September or October. I didn't leave, I'm on hiatus due to not having regular computer access due to no hw requiring the computer.

Yay, sp's not gone!!!

 

[Daftpanzer]

One thing about world in conflict concerns me: it seems you have tons of units squeezed onto a single screen, same as every other RTS, which can only fire about two inches forward, to keep things on a confined scale. And it seems everything is bunched up, which just looks wrong, and makes me think the weapon area-of-effect is also really small, to avoid killing those bunched-up armies in one explosion. Please tell me I'm wrong

And, it would allow the claim to "DNES" as a title as opposed to "DaNES" to devolve to me. Dachspmg supports this.

Go for it, I reject any claim to 'D' and realise now how selfish it was of me!

 

[Dachs]

Go for it, I reject any claim to 'D' and realise now how selfish it was of me!

Ha ha, that was a big fat j/k. By now it'd be confusing anyway.