Luckymoose
The World is Mine
You lost that war, give it a rest.
No, das stopped updating, big difference.
While We Wait: Part 5
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No, das stopped updating, big difference.
silver 2039
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Your nation ceased to exist. I call that a loss.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
nah mate, its only a loss if his entire population was genocided and his land salted and made uninhabtable!
As it stands he was only experiencing a minor downturn in luck which has resulted in a momentary loss of sovereign government.
As it stands he was only experiencing a minor downturn in luck which has resulted in a momentary loss of sovereign government.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Says who? I still had my core, and I burned Bangha to the ground.
silver 2039
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Are we looking at the same update?
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Yes, we are. The final update lacked a map.
This is a perfect example of why NESers are the worst people in the world for NESing.
silver 2039
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Or really pretty much anything in general.
das
Regeneration In Process
...Yeah. AFSNES was fun, but there were many things wrong with the way it turned out, from the viewpoint of althistorical veracity (because I don't want to call it realism
), and I intend to avoid that this time.EDIT: Disregard for now (there used to be some more ramblings about End of Empires here, but I decided to study it more thoroughly slightly later before making any definite choice).
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
This is a perfect example of why NESers are the worst people in the world for NESing.
Not at all.... you are only a bad person if the person making the judgements on who is bad or good likes the people being killed or hates them instead. Of course as we are talking about a nation that Luckymoose was playing I think that most people would not bat an eyelid if some of the genocide started.
Symphony D.
Deity
It's more that conflating personal goals ("I'm gonna be the best player and conquer the world, ha ha!") with national goals (which are often totally opposite the Player's goals and overwhelmingly tend to be "Let's stay alive and not do worse than we were previously" most of the time) is the major cause of all player stupidity in NESes, like fighting to the death when surrender is a clearly better option or revolting even though the local situation will become vastly worse.
Playing from that perspective eliminates any pretense of roleplaying whatsoever. If you're just here to beat other people down and flex your mental superiority, you should cut out the middleman (the moderator) and go play Civilization online or something. NESers seem to have no trouble at all running doublethink mental software though.
Playing from that perspective eliminates any pretense of roleplaying whatsoever. If you're just here to beat other people down and flex your mental superiority, you should cut out the middleman (the moderator) and go play Civilization online or something. NESers seem to have no trouble at all running doublethink mental software though.
That was indeed an overriding concern. I mean, seriously...Jomon?...Yeah. AFSNES was fun, but there were many things wrong with the way it turned out, from the viewpoint of althistorical veracity (because I don't want to call it realism
What Symphony D. said. The 'genocide' part has essentially nothing to do with it...the problem is if the government fails to begin negotiations before such an eventuality. And even in that case...a palace coup might be in order...to replace an idiot ruler who's having his country crash and burn instead of somebody who wants to salvage what's left. Even the Nazis, in the age of total war, tried that one out. Götterdämmerung just doesn't really ever happen.
Symphony D.
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Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
I do understand what you are saying, as evident by the many times I HAVE made peace in the past..... As this is an out of character thread I was attempting some humour....
Of course sometimes the war takes on a whole new level, that of what is bascially akin to the TOTAL WAR of the Second World War, or other similar conflicts of times gone past. When this occurs it is possible to fight in the fashion you mention and remain in the roleplaying spirit. Of course this is also dependent on the type of government you have been running as well, as democracies are less likely to fight to the death than dictatorships.
EDIT: Oh and doublethink software is fun to use just so long as you realise that its complete bullfrog and its not to be used in RL! I am just surprised that even now people misconstrue the fact that in some games I act a little crazy (you never know which ones tho) because thats the character of leadership I wish to protray, nothing but simple RP from my personal perspective, and they dont realise that outside of these forums I am actually quiet a liberal, intelligent and peacenik type of guy.
That's nice. I understand that peace treaties actually happen in NESes; their terms are still usually ridiculous.
What, was it a non sequitur then? Because it wasn't amusing at all. Humor usually works better when it's, you know, funny.Sheep said:
I maintain that this is not the way wars are generally fought in NESes, and they are out of context for their time periods.Sheep said:
lolwutSheep said:
Have some counterexamples. Here are some more. People who quote von Clausewitz ought to actually pay attention when they read his books. His contention was that the introduction of nationalism and republicanism and the democratization of warfare by the allowance of creations of formations like Landwehr troops allows total war...among other things, of course.
Symphony D.
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Begging for attention is really not the impression you want to give people.
silver 2039
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Yours is a noob NES. You are a noob, the people in your NES are noobs. Your have a very bad reputation as a noob and it will take some time to go away. You have improved somewhat, but there is still a long way to go.
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
be crazy like silver
