While We Wait: Writer's Block & Other Lame Excuses

[Birdjaguar]

As an aside, I do feel that discussions by NESers about religion and politics and culture would be more interesting than those often found in OT.

 

[christos200]

You know absolutely nothing.

Care to expand either here or in a PM?

 

[North King]

What I would suggest is that when you play a game you bring your religious/political and cultural beliefs into the game and create nations that are strange and interesting. You can fight your ideological battles in a game rather than in a discussion that will most likely go nowhere.

Oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god, no. Not emphatic enough. NO. Do not play countries to express real world political beliefs; there are so many things wrong with this that I don't know where to start.

 

[Terrance888]

You know nothing, Chris Tosh.

GAME OF THRONEZ

 

[christos200]

Westerners think of Democracy as something netural. In fact, the Islamic and Chinese World do not have any tradition in democracy and were it exists, it has been imposed by the West. Democracy is a foreign concept and no seems to understand that.

 

[Lord of Elves]

Oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god, no. Not emphatic enough. NO. Do not play countries to express real world political beliefs; there are so many things wrong with this that I don't know where to start.

I forgot to tell you that I am going to be changing Iolha into a unitary republic with freedom of religion, state capitalism and a professional standing army.

@christos, no one understands your proposition that "democracy is a foreign concept [to 'non-westerners']" because it is historically untrue.

 

[Terrance888]

Oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god, no. Not emphatic enough. NO. Do not play countries to express real world political beliefs; there are so many things wrong with this that I don't know where to start.

OMG. NNNNNNNNOPE. Nope nope nope nope. I agree with North King entirely and wholeheartedly.

 

[Crezth]

Oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god, no. Not emphatic enough. NO. Do not play countries to express real world political beliefs; there are so many things wrong with this that I don't know where to start.

No, it makes perfect sense. Having discussions solves nothing, ever. Much better to passive-aggressively make jabs at ideologies you disagree with in what Birdjaguar just told us is supposed to be a more relaxed environment.

 

[JohannaK]

I propose that, since the issue cannot be talked here, the relevant posts be transferred to a new thread in the Chamber. It doesn't have any real user traffic so the discussion can easily proceed undisturbed by OTers for some time.

 

[christos200]

LoE, I beleive that your position is not true. China and the Islamic World do not have a tradition of democracy and do not need it. The West, in order to hide it's imperialism, says that it wants to export democracy and has been very good in spreading propaganda that democracy is a global concept, when it is a Western one and a foreign to China and the Islamic World.

 

[Luckymoose]

I blame the Greeks.

 

[Lord of Elves]

I propose that, since the issue cannot be talked here, the relevant posts be transferred to a new thread in the Chamber. It doesn't have any real user traffic so the discussion can easily proceed undisturbed by OTers for some time.

I would really prefer to have this discussion in WWW, where it is safely hidden from the rest of the forum. The usual suspects in OT will devour Jehoshua, and this discussion, whole.

LoE, I beleive that your position is not true. China and the Islamic World do not have a tradition of democracy and do not need it. The West, in order to hide it's imperialism, says that it wants to export democracy and has been very good in spreading propaganda that democracy is a global concept, when it is a Western one and a foreign to China and the Islamic World.

Congratulations. More assertions based on "clash of civilizations" gibberish and a-historical nonsense with no actual basis in reality, and not just that, but a healthy dose of Chomskyism too. You are just a paragon of intellectual originality and integrity today.

 

[Terrance888]

So the OT is like IOT, except even more foreign?

Interesting.

 

[North King]

But what about the great tradition of democracy handed to us from the times of Athens in an unbroken line down the ages?

 

[Crezth]

LoE, I beleive that your position is not true. China and the Islamic World do not have a tradition of democracy and do not need it. The West, in order to hide it's imperialism, says that it wants to export democracy and has been very good in spreading propaganda that democracy is a global concept, when it is a Western one and a foreign to China and the Islamic World.

Countries are a serious issue. If you have to talk about countries or economics or democracy or politics or anything like that, please talk about it in OT.

 

[Lord of Elves]

So the OT is like IOT, except even more foreign?

Interesting.

Terrance, OT is a very weird alternate dimension in which all debate is stifled by various over-arching and supreme forum personalities (those of you who frequent OT know who I am talking about) that monopolize threads and discussions. It is a silly place.

 

[SouthernKing]

Terrance, OT is a very weird alternate dimension in which all debate is stifled by various over-arching and supreme forum personalities (those of you who frequent OT know who I am talking about) that monopolize threads and discussions. It is a silly place.

Camelot!

 

[Terrance888]

It's like real life, you mean?

 

[JohannaK]

OT is indeed terrible. I just don't want to see this fantastic discussion cut short by will of The Modz. So I proposed a sensible compromise.

 

[SouthernKing]

Is Mibbit not working? cause I'm trying to get on #nes, and it keeps timing out before connecting.