Who are the Ki-Ju's?

[weimar_republic]

Who are the Ki-Ju's? they are the name of people I have givin to them, based on my book. they are, in short, people who are extremley un-cool. the general qualifications are as such:

never been to a party, and if went, was treated rotten

has 1 or 2 friends, maybe 3, but not alot

truley fears that people would kill him/her had they chance

never had a girl/boyfriend and belives that could not get one even with $500

There are 3 other gropus though...
basacally there is the "US" and "THEM" the us consists of people who are un cool, or have low self esteem, for evatever reason. then them are the rest of the people in the wrold.

Dete'ns, people who also have problems, but arent Ki-Ju's. for example: Orphans. The disabled. Etc...

Lappins, part of "them" they are the wing of them who support Dete'ns and Ki-Ju's. they are nice and kind people. these people are many, but most of them are to affraid to say anything when a Ki-Ju is being harassed.

Tokins, the only people who will truly go to hell. these people would laugh at somone in a whellchair and say to them "walk man, walk!" they would do anything to cause pain to Ki-Ju's Dete'ns and even Lappins as well as other Tokins. they lack compassion, and therefore, are not human.

This thread is for any member of any group. we are to discuss problems with the world and such. some starting topics are:
bullying-where kids are bullied at school and other such places
the nerd syndrome-where computer freeks are called nerds and threfore made fun of
the stalker syndrome-where a person with low self esteem is nervous and comes off as a killer or stalker of some sort. kinda like that guy in the movie superstar
the

so, let the discussion begin, all I would ask is that you sign yourself as one of the 4 groups. I belive I am boarderline Ki-Ju Lappin.

{check the thread on the KEE Empire for explanations of where these names come from}

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[RedWolf]

I was a computer nerd in high school. But not a Ki-Ju by any means.

I was a "cool nerd"

I was a bit nerdy and certainly not part of the "cool crowd" yet I had friends in EVERY group. I knew and hung out with people that were nerds, slackers, goths, preppies, rockers, artists, and even a number of jocks considered me a friend.

Sure I knew computers and got really good marks but I didn't hold it ABOVE other people. I was simply me. In computer class if someone needed a hand then i helped them. Never made them feel dumb or inferior because I didn't see it that way. I didn't gossip about people, didn't start rumours and was nice to everyone I met. I'm easy going and tend to just let things slide.

A friend once called me "the coolest nerd that she knew"

For some reason I was able to fit into any crowd and adapt to groups. I make friends slowly but most people see me as honest and trustworthy.

I was a little scrawny (still am) but i never got picked on or beat up. A buddy once said "You don't have to know how to fight... if anybody ever messed with you - the guys in this school would come down on 'em like a ton of bricks"

I guess I'm a "Lappin".

Weimer.. for the record... I think this thread is a little crazy.

 

[Magnus]

I defy such simplistic labelling...

 

[BorderPatrol]

I am against labeling because that tends to tell people how they are supposed to act, and ignores free will.

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[Simon Darkshade]

Um, i don't really know what to say that hasn't been said in these type of threads before, weimar, but i'll try.
Firstly, putting all people into a few little categories lessens the wonderous variety of life, and places them into categories permanently. People change. I know I did.
Weimar, if you want to change your situation, then perhaps try and change yourself slightly. Grow a bit of a thicker skin. It is hard to start off with, but it is needed in life.
IMO, this tendency of yours to have your own world and everything is perfectly all right, as long as you do not get too absorbed in it. There is a time when one must put aside childish things, and become a man.

Perhaps one of the reasons that people think you are a freak is because you might dwell on these things a bit too much. If you concentrate on your situatiuon, which you say ain't good, then that negativity will shine out in everything you do.

I guess people did think I was a bit of a freak for a while when I was younger, about your age, and one of the reasons I kept up this line of behaviour is that it kept me in the limelight. Be it freakish feats of memory, to scullign whiskey, to belting blokes on the footy field to being a cool rebel; Been there done that, got the T Shirt.But when I started acting a bit more normal, or rather a bit less immature, everyone liked and respected me for who I was. Now, several years later, I'm a well adjusted, proud, successful, f*****g smart, respected and feared gentlemen. Things may not be perfect, but they imporved. So you can't get the chick you love, or chicks in general. Well, so did a lot of people, including some form these ranks. Life ain't perfect, it is hard, but it is also what you make it. I don't mean to be rude, but instead of complaining about the world, try to change yourself to start off with. Once this is done, and you have a secure base area, then you can change others, and the world.

The most important thing is to be a good, or evil, man, and to be true to yourself. Friends will come, and they will go.
The bloke in "Stand By Me" says "I've never had friends like I did back then when I was 12. ****, does anyone.?"
Don't think that the only type of friends to have are bosom buddies from the start. You've go to cultivate them.
Don't get caught in a misery of your own making. Seize the day, and it shall be yours.
And stop listening to and FOR voices and ****.
It is a hard slog, but I hope you make it.
Once again, don't confuse my frankness with flaming. It ain't.

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[goodbye_mr_bond]

Originally posted by Simon Darkshade:
I don't mean to be rude, but instead of complaining about the world, try to change yourself to start off with. Once this is done, and you have a secure base area, then you can change others, and the world.

I hate to 'lowlight' Simon's many other outstanding and wise comments above by highlighting this particular quote, but it bears further consideration. Hell, it deserves to be chiseled in reverse into most peoples' foreheads so they could read it every morning as they brush their teeth.

 

[weimar_republic]

I have changed. I have been trying to change since november of 1999. but still, everyone hates me. they still insult me and throw things at me. and the girls still are affraid of me... they think I am a stalker... anyways. the only thing I want is to be loved by someone... my family and I arent really close, they never beat me up, but I still never felt close to them. then I go to school, and virtually everyone there hates me. I have never really felt loved or needed by anyone. thats why I picked the name Weimar_Republic, it had no friends. thats all I really want, and I figure I can do this best by getting a girlfriend. but I cant seem to get a girlfriend... I am to scared. I have never been in the same room alone with a girl before, never kissed a girl.... never done anything, girls hate me still. those that dont know me seem to like me, but as soon as they get to really know me they dont like me anymore.
anyways... It seems like I will be alone forever... I want to create an empire. a large empire of people who have never been loved by anyone, and these people in the empire would be eachothers family. but I strongley doubt that I will ever find members for this empire... It seems like I am the only Ki-Ju on this planet. I probably am.
I have tried and tried for countless hours of countless days to change. I have been trying even since august of 1997. 4 years ago. I am only 16. how can you say that it will work if it hasent worked for 1/4 of my life, and just about all of my life when I am smart enough to understand things.
I have a little senate in my head. its not really there, but its somehting I use to concreete the ideas and feelings in my head. the senate has 2 parties, the Tedofsky Party and the Ki Party. in general, the Tedofskys belive that things will turn out well for me, the Ki's belive that things will get worse. but the centrists, belive that I might... like the Democrats and Republicans. anyways, at the moment I am about half half each, like the US senate, except in my head its exactley 50-50. anyways, I now belive that, other then my problems, I will get a girl to like me. but I am to affraid. its too important to me to skrew up. I must do this, if I skrew up its all over... I need it. but then I get to stressed about it, and cant do it... its like I am fighting myself on it... I am at constant war, and its so constant that I cannot concentrate on school work, and that falls behind, and so on and so on.....

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[This message has been edited by weimar_republic (edited June 21, 2001).]

 

[Warlord56]

Wiemer, first I doubt that virtually everyone hates you. I used to have that feeling but I'v echanged. Also, yuo confuse me. 2 days ago you said you were a Democrt, but now you say your 50-50(in my opinion your getting smarter, but your still confusing me lol). You think your not changing btu look at it you rae. Also, you posted something of this sort, but only applying to you, before. We all said t\something as in my first sentence. So, nto to offend you, but stop feeling sorry for yourself and get and maybe your life will improve.

 

[weimar_republic]

you guys make it sound easy, well its not. I have been trying to do all that stuff. I dont feel sorry for myself, I dont know where you get that from. I am just affraid of skrewing things, but and then when I think about it, there is always the chance that I will be alone for the rest of my life. then again there is the chance that I might really fall in love with a gril that loves me back...

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[xeven_god_of_helsibahr]

None of the Above. I am more of an *ahem* Helsibahrian. Meaning, I tell you what I think, I piss people off easily (Most of the time not on perpose), I tell jokes frequently, and I want to conquer the world (For real.)....

 

[dreadhead7]

weimar, you can't give up. When I was a kid, I was the very embodiment of the word 'geek'. I had only a few friends, and I treasured them. Want to know just how bad I was? I'll tell you. I was the smallest and youngest kid in my class all through school. In addition, I am almost totally blind. I used to wear these horrid thick glasses, and I bumped into everything. I also had seizures (still do), so I was always blacking out in class. To add insult to injury, just about everyone I met called me ugly, and would laugh at me when I walked past. Only two things saved me: 1. I was the smartest kid in class. I always had my head in a book, and would rather read than play. People didn't know what to do with me because I was disabled, but extremely bright; my intelligence was my major salvation. 2. I was very tough for a kid my size. I stood up to anybody; I wouldn't take crap from the bullies, and I got a lot of respect for that as I got older.

Overall, though, my life was horrible. I had no support from my family. I came from a very abusive home. We had lots of money, but no love in our house. My parents couldn't deal with a child with a disability, and was always comparing me to my twin sister, who isn't disabled. As a result, I was depressed and suicidal at a young age.

Things were somewhat better when I got to high school, but not much. I didn't have any boyfriends because most of the guys I knew either thought I was ugly, considered me "one of the guys", or was intimidated by my brains. I withdrew from the world and into my books and schoolwork, and graduated from high school at age 16.

In college, things began to get much better. People were a lot more mature, and could look past the cover and read the book, so to speak. I took some psychology classes, and that gave me quite a bit of insight into myself and others. I also got into therapy, and that changed my life. Believe me, it was not easy! Nothing good in this life is. It took years for me to go from geek to chic, but it did happen! It took me years to gain self-confidence and to learn to love myself. I'm not vain at all, but now, I can't keep the guys (and sometimes the women) away from me! I'm not Miss America, but I know that I am pretty. I have done all kinds of neat things, and even helped make some new laws!

The good thing about all of this is that I have retained my basic personality. I'm a very nice person. I'm still a little shy, but not painfully so, as I used to be. I enjoy helping people, but I don't lord things over anyone because that isn't right. I'm comfortable with myself now, and that is good. I am by no means perfect, but I'm much better than I was. My new lease on life has helped me to go through some really tough times recently, like being diagnosed with MS.

I'm telling you all this because I want you to know that things can change. You can make things happen, you just have to want it bad enough and be willing to work very, very hard. It's scary to change because you're so used to the way things are, even if it's bad, but it must be done. Otherwise, you'll spend your life in the same rut.

Back in the day, I had quite a few people telling me the same things that I'm telling you, and I didn't believe them. I thought they were being smug. I thought, "yeah, that's easy for you to say". Now that I'm where they are, I see things much differently. Now I understand where they were coming from.

I'll stop babbling now, but I'll leave you with one last piece of advice concerning girlfriends. Relax. You're trying way too hard.

I'll bet that if you stop looking for a girlfriend, when you least expect it, a nice young lady will come along and you'll become good friends, and then, it'll blossom into something wonderful. It's happend more than a few times.

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