Why is the AIDS virus so racist?

[Tahuti]

If Classical Hero really cared, he'd be out there himself, orally-homosexin' it up by way of example. That's the true Christian spirit, isn't it, evangelism by example?

Hey, evangelism is bringing the good news! I think some Polish band once made an album about it!

 

[wolfigor]

going back to the original post, the stats is coming from CDC and it's referring only to USA.

The CDC itself identify the most likely causes of so high incidence of HIV in some communities in USA:

Reducing the toll of HIV on communities that are disproportionately affected requires confronting the complex social, economic, and environmental factors that fuel the epidemic in these communities.

1. Poverty can limit access to health care, HIV testing, and medications that can lower levels of HIV in the blood and help prevent transmission. In addition, those who cannot afford the basics in life may end up in circumstances that increase their HIV risk.

2. Discrimination, stigma and homophobia: Far too prevalent in many communities, these factors may discourage individuals from seeking testing, prevention, and treatment services.

3. Prevalence of HIV and other STDs in a community: More people living with HIV or infected with STDs can increase an individual’s risk of infection with every sexual encounter, especially if, within those communities, people select partners who are from the same ethnicity.

4. Higher rates of undiagnosed/untreated STDs can increase the risk of both acquiring and transmitting HIV.

5. Higher rates of incarceration among men can disrupt social and sexual networks in the broader community and decrease the number of available partners for women, which can fuel the spread of HIV.

6. Language barriers and concerns about immigration status present additional prevention challenges.

IMO these points explain well why there such high proportion of HIV in the black community in the States.
Especially point #1 in combination with #2 is quite interesting: in a closed community the infection rate can easily go over the national average just by a very unfortunate combination of the two factors.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Moderator Action: Moderator Action: Enough of this type of posting. It would be more appropriate to tell us what you would do to solve the problem than to tell CH, or anyone else, what they should be doing. Thanks.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

Wouldn't that be off-topic with regard to the argument the OP is making?

If we stop being so PC about the problem it could be treated but we have the first PC disease here that is actively being spread because we are afraid of calling out the behavioural problem behind it. If we do try and mention it you are both homophobic and racist at the same time. Criticising bad behaviour is something we should be doing and it is a problem in the wider homosexual community.

Which basically boils down to: "You must criticize bad behaviour, except when it's coming from people like me and my ilk, if you criticize our homophobic and/or racist behaviour, you're just being PC. That's my story and me and my beam are sticking by it"

 

[Farm Boy]

Which basically boils down to: "You must criticize bad behaviour, except when it's coming from people like me and my ilk, if you criticize our homophobic and/or racist behaviour, you're just being PC. That's my story and me and my beam are sticking by it"

Would it help if one of his ilk(?) voiced an unreservedly negative opinion of heteros who can't keep in in their pants outside of marriage(or its equivalents)?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I guess it would have helped.

 

[Farm Boy]

I'm happy to do that if he won't, but I'm not sure exactly how much he would claim me as brethren on that token, I guess.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I'd rather he didn't. It's plenty clear by reading his contributions so far behaviour isn't his main concern. So I don't think adding dishonesty would help.

There's a reason I answered your question in the past tense

 

[illram]

So you don't see a behavioural problem happening?


Of course it is, which is why it is a behavioural problem and that is why we are seeing young black men as being over 50% of the cases in America. It's rare in the heterosexual community and yet it is rather common in the homosexual community. If we stop being so PC about the problem it could be treated but we have the first PC disease here that is actively being spread because we are afraid of calling out the behavioural problem behind it. If we do try and mention it you are both homophobic and racist at the same time. Criticising bad behaviour is something we should be doing and it is a problem in the wider homosexual community.

The issue is you think the "behavioral problem" is homosexuality. It isn't. Being gay doesn't make you get AIDS. The behavioral problem is primarily unsafe sex, which is a behavioral problem for straight people as well. Yes, there are issues in the gay community that make the transmission of AIDS more prevalent, but none of these reasons have to do with "being gay is bad!"

Whether you like it or not, the behavioral "problem" you perceive--homosexuality--is not a behavior that any rational, modern public health policy should attempt to "fix", for numerous obvious reasons. It is the same in other parts of the world where AIDS is widespread problem amongst the straight community. Like Africa. Whether it is a village in Africa where a lot of straight women have AIDS or a neighborhood in San Francisco where a lot of gay men have AIDS, usually an effective public health policy needs to focus on evidence based solutions--like promoting condom use or HIV testing or needle exchanges or other safe sex practices--rather than dubious moral or religious views that will not be effective in addressing the actual biological causes of the disease's spread.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Or else ...?

Or else you'll give a spot on counter-argument (which should have been stating the bleeding obvious and it's rather depressing one has to state and spell it out that way)

Well-played.

 

[GoodGame]

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/HIVFactSheets/Epidemic/Inequities.htm

It seems that the AIDS virus is targeting black men more than others, so why is it being so racist?

That web-link is broken.

 

[Pegasus_77]

Whether it is a village in Africa where a lot of straight women have AIDS or a neighborhood in San Francisco where a lot of gay men have AIDS, usually an effective public health policy needs to focus on evidence based solutions--like promoting condom use or HIV testing or needle exchanges or other safe sex practices--rather than dubious moral or religious views that will not be effective in addressing the actual biological causes of the disease's spread.

of course we shall prioritize the solution over the morality but it is also vital to respect the moral and religious views,which, if not handled properly, will jeopardize social instability.
All in all, the policy shall be hinged upon the national conditions. To be more exact, in highly religious areas, moral and religious views shall be considered more.

 

[illram]

Religious and social mores should always be respected and worked within, to the extent they can be. But there are limits. People should not stop trying to administer the polio vaccine in Pakistan because some crazy Islamic fundamentalists are killing aid workers. People in Africa should not stop distributing condoms because the Catholic church thinks artificial birth control is immoral. Etc. Etc.