Why is the AIDS virus so racist?

While sub-Saharan Africa has the highest incidence of HIV, it certainly isn't the only region.

Sub-Saharan Africa

More than two-thirds (70 percent) of all people living with HIV, 25 million, live in sub-Saharan Africa—including 88 percent of the world’s HIV-positive children. In 2012, an estimated 1.6 million people in the region became newly infected. An estimated 1.2 million adults and children died of AIDS, accounting for 75 percent of the world’s AIDS deaths in 2012.

Asia and the Pacific

In Asia and the Pacific, nearly 351,000 people became newly infected in 2012, bringing the total number of people living with HIV/AIDS there to nearly 5 million. AIDS claimed an estimated 261,000 lives in the region in 2012.

Caribbean

Approximately 12,000 people became newly infected in the Caribbean in 2012, bringing the total number of people living with HIV/AIDS there to more than 250,000. AIDS claimed an estimated 11,000 lives in 2012.

Central and South America

There were an estimated 86,000 new HIV/AIDS infections and 52,000 AIDS-related deaths in Central and South America in 2012. This region currently has 1.5 million people living with HIV/AIDS.

North Africa and the Middle East

Approximately 260,000 people are living with HIV in this region and an estimated 32,000 people became newly infected in 2012. An estimated 17,000 adults and children died of AIDS.

Eastern Europe and Central Asia

Some 130,000 people were newly infected with HIV in 2012, bringing the number of people living with HIV/AIDS to 1.3 million. HIV/AIDS claimed 91,000 lives in 2012.

Western and Central Europe

In 2012, there were 29,000 new cases of HIV, bringing the number of people living with HIV in Western and Central Europe to 860,000. An estimated 7,600 people in these regions died of AIDS in 2012.

While much of it is due to poverty, lack of education, and cultural differences (at least since AIDs was first discovered and radically changed the sexual habits in the US and Europe), a large part of the problem is that HIV first spread in that region. It was deliberately ignored for many years by the Reagan administration because they thought their god was exacting revenge on those who engaged in premarital sex. So it was allowed to spread relatively unabated for many years while the president of the United States and his advisers intentionally decided to ignore it.

Was there a "racist" element to this? They probably would not have dared to have used the same excuse if the outbreak had occurred in the US or Europe instead...

Then there is the matter of the Bush administration and Congress deliberately reducing the spread of sex education other than abstinence, while doing all they could to eliminate the free condoms which were being sent worldwide to try to address the growing problem.

THE UNITED NATIONS’ LATEST REPORT ON AIDS, issued last week, underscores how the Bush administration’s war on the condom has blocked HIV-prevention efforts around the world. A key finding: Nearly half of all new cases of HIV infection are women. But in May, at the U.N.’s Special Session on Children, Bush formed an unholy alliance with Iraq and Iran — you remember, two-thirds of the “axis of evil” — to successfully eliminate from the official declaration any references to the right of the world’s children to “reproductive health services and education,” including condoms for HIV prevention.

In sub-Saharan Africa, where teenage girls are treated as chattel and forced into sexual submission to older men — either by economic necessity or cultural tradition — the U.N. report notes that about 2 million of about 4.2 million new HIV infections are among females. Yet Bush threatened countries with trade and aid reprisals if they didn’t toe the no-condoms, abstinence-only, anti-abortion line in the vote to weaken the U.N.’s commitment to providing life-saving information to those young women.

But that’s only the tip of the iceberg. Countries like Cambodia have complained in public that U.S. policies preventing American foreign-aid dollars from being used to purchase, distribute and educate about condoms have crippled their HIV-prevention programs.

And, here at home, Bush — under the direction of political commissar Karl Rove — has been systematically placing HIV- prevention efforts into the hands of the Christian right — which ä is pushing the censorious line that abstinence before heterosexual marriage is the only permissible form of HIV-prevention education — and putting condom opponents in charge of AIDS education.

For example, Rove engineered the appointment of Oklahoma’s Tom Coburn as co-chair of the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV and AIDS (PACHA). A former congressman and Baptist deacon, condom critic Coburn — a board member of the far-right Family Research Council — was considered the AIDS community’s Enemy Number One in his years in the House. He earned this dishonor because this notorious homophobe, after having called safer sex a “lie,” tried to have the head of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) fired for advocating condom use to prevent AIDS; wrote unsuccessful legislation to replace anonymous HIV testing with mandatory reporting of the names of the HIV-infected (which AIDS educators say drives people away from being tested for the virus and forces the problem underground); and spurred intimidating investigations of nonprofit AIDS agencies.

For the position of PACHA’s executive director, Rove picked Patricia Funderburk Ware, a former actress who has made a career out of promoting abstinence until marriage as the only acceptable guideline for sexual conduct. As the education head of Americans for a Sound AIDS Policy, a group funded by the Christian right, Ware not only lobbied against any efforts that promoted education and protection over abstinence but also against including HIV and AIDS in the Americans With Disabilities Act and its protections against discrimination. Moreover, Bush’s appointees to the advisory council included no scientists and not a single person with HIV, while at the same time he stacked it with campaign contributors and Christian-right condom opponents — including Joe McIlhaney Jr., director of the Texas-based Medical Institute for Sexual Health, which provides condom-debunking information to abstinence educators across the country. McIlhaney, who was Bush’s AIDS-prevention guru when Dubya was governor.

At the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Rove recruited conservative Claude Allen, a former top aide to Jesse Helms, to keep an eye on Secretary Tommy Thompson (who has an exaggerated reputation as a “moderate”). As Secretary of Health and Human Resources for right-wing Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore, Allen bent public-health priorities to the religious right’s agenda and led a state-sponsored anti-safe-sex crusade he cooked up with the abstinence-only Institute for Youth Development, whose mission is to teach children to fear rather than understand sex. Allen says of condom use: “It’s like telling your child, ‘Don’t use the car,’ but then leaving the keys in the Lamborghini and saying, ‘But if you do, buckle up.’” As deputy health secretary, Allen has been placed in charge of a censorious audit of AIDS groups designed to crack down on science-based safe-sex education.

Not only has Allen made explicit sex ed aimed at gay men his favorite target (despite soaring infection rates among under-25 gay males), but when Thompson was criticized by vociferous protests against Bush’s AIDS betrayals during the secretary’s speech at the international AIDS conference in Barcelona earlier this year, influential Indiana Representative Mark Souder — an evangelical Christian who says all gay sex is “immoral,” and who chairs the House’s oversight subcommittee on HHS — sparked a witch-hunt against a dozen respected AIDS service organizations (including San Francisco’s Stop AIDS Project) because some of their members participated in the demonstration. Now being conducted by Allen, the HHS witch-hunting audit is designed to intimidate all of the 3,500 local AIDS service groups, which are dependent on federal funding for their existence, into staying silent on Bush’s disastrous AIDS policies.

In October, a dozen congressmen led by L.A.’s Henry Waxman denounced the Bush administration’s removal of medical information on condoms and sex from government Web sites, including those of the CDC and HHS. And Human Rights Watch recently issued a damning report on how Bush’s pushing of abstinence-only has undermined prevention education about AIDS and other STDs (check it out).

While flat-lining domestic AIDS funding for the Ryan White Care Act and the AIDS Drug Assistance Program (which provides anti-AIDS drugs to the poor) — both of which are now facing crisis shortfalls in their budgets — Bush has added tens of millions to his 2003 budget for abstinence-only education, now up to $135 million. Rove’s evil genius: The money is used as political patronage for religious-sponsored abstinence programs, particularly in the black and Latino communities — where new AIDS infections are soaring, and where churches are being enrolled to support Bush’s 2004 re-election. (A coalition of 50 organizations — including the American Jewish Congress Commission for Women’s Equality, chapters of Planned Parenthood, a United Church of Christ ministry, the Unitarians and the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League — has initiated a campaign to have Congress stop funding abstinence-only programs. Its Web site — www.nonewmoney.org — gives you a simple, clickable way to e-mail your Congress members.)

So, by politicizing AIDS education and prevention both globally and domestically, the Bush administration, in its macabre dance, is helping to push the numbers of new AIDS infections upward. Future generations will judge this for what it is: stomach-turning criminal negligence.
So there's a far-right Christian homophobia aspect as well, which first started with the Reagan administration and even continues today.
 
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050307/full/news050307-15.html

That said, I'd still point most fingers at socio-economic factors. We'd see the effect of race once we smooth out the effects due to poverty
So you don't see a behavioural problem happening?
It mostly comes down to the fact that transmission is more likely during anal sex.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070913132930.htm

Of course it is, which is why it is a behavioural problem and that is why we are seeing young black men as being over 50% of the cases in America. It's rare in the heterosexual community and yet it is rather common in the homosexual community. If we stop being so PC about the problem it could be treated but we have the first PC disease here that is actively being spread because we are afraid of calling out the behavioural problem behind it. If we do try and mention it you are both homophobic and racist at the same time. :rolleyes: Criticising bad behaviour is something we should be doing and it is a problem in the wider homosexual community.
 
Moderator Action: Is there a non-troll point to this thread? If so get to it.

Jeezus, classical_hero, do you even read your own links?

Really not seeing the non-troll point of this thread. His link says one thing but CH's conclusion is that it is behaviour of people he wants to blame and political correctness.

Well done Classical Hero, you've successfully wrestled the title of "Worst and Least Informed Opinion Haver" back from Terx and his alcohol induced false epiphanies about women.

Moderator Action: Please read the second post in this thread. Although in non-RD threads there's a little latitude in relation to other posters in the discussion, you can't bring third parties into it.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
 
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Eh, it is a disease that is issue dominated by behavior patterns though. Just like all STDs are. I'm not sure why "don't be gay" needs to be the takeaway here, but it very well might be instead this - "If you are gay and wish to engage in homosexual anal sex, monogamy and condom usage are hyper-critical in disease prevention." That is, at the base, a behavioral issue. There needs be no insinuation of homophobery or antiblackery, or whatever, though I certainly can't keep people from including that if they want to.
 
So you don't see a behavioural problem happening

It's 100% behavioural, and I'd not be surprised if there was a race (cultural) component. Using statistics, you'd factor out socio-economic status first, though, to figure out the specific 'black' cultural component. At least as a first step, anyway.
 
So you don't see a behavioural problem happening?


Of course it is, which is why it is a behavioural problem and that is why we are seeing young black men as being over 50% of the cases in America. It's rare in the heterosexual community and yet it is rather common in the homosexual community. If we stop being so PC about the problem it could be treated but we have the first PC disease here that is actively being spread because we are afraid of calling out the behavioural problem behind it. If we do try and mention it you are both homophobic and racist at the same time. :rolleyes: Criticising bad behaviour is something we should be doing and it is a problem in the wider homosexual community.

Dear gays,

Please consider giving each other more blow jobs and engaging in more mutual masturbation as a healthy alternative to bareback anal sex. I say this because I deeply care about your well being.

Sincerely,
CH
 
Dear gays,

Please consider giving each other more blow jobs and engaging in more mutual masturbation as a healthy alternative to bareback anal sex. I say this because I deeply care about your well being.

Sincerely,
CH
If Classical Hero really cared, he'd be out there himself, orally-homosexin' it up by way of example. That's the true Christian spirit, isn't it, evangelism by example?
 
Assuming he is disease free, he could offer himself up as a safe alternative to more questionable choices of partner.
 
Of course it is, which is why it is a behavioural problem and that is why we are seeing young black men as being over 50% of the cases in America. It's rare in the heterosexual community and yet it is rather common in the homosexual community. If we stop being so PC about the problem it could be treated but we have the first PC disease here that is actively being spread because we are afraid of calling out the behavioural problem behind it. If we do try and mention it you are both homophobic and racist at the same time. :rolleyes: Criticising bad behaviour is something we should be doing and it is a problem in the wider homosexual community.
I don't see anyone disputing that AIDS disproportionately strikes both gay males and blacks, and especially gay blacks, at least within the USA. I also don't see anybody disputing that unprotected anal sex and re-use of IV drug needles are the most important HIV vectors, and that these are behaviors that need to be addressed. So why do you have this perception, and how is anyone being unnecessarily PC here?

Furthermore, what is your recommendation? Educating the population and handing out condoms and sterile needles seems to be an effective approach. In practice, this is far more effective than admonishing people for having gay sex and using drugs without offering lower-risk alternatives. Do you have a better idea?
 
Dear gays,

Please consider giving each other more blow jobs and engaging in more mutual masturbation as a healthy alternative to bareback anal sex. I say this because I deeply care about your well being.

Sincerely,
CH

If Classical Hero really cared, he'd be out there himself, orally-homosexin' it up by way of example. That's the true Christian spirit, isn't it, evangelism by example?

Assuming he is disease free, he could offer himself up as a safe alternative to more questionable choices of partner.

Moderator Action: Enough of this type of posting. It would be more appropriate to tell us what you would do to solve the problem than to tell CH, or anyone else, what they should be doing. Thanks.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
 
Furthermore, what is your recommendation? Educating the population and handing out condoms and sterile needles seems to be an effective approach. In practice, this is far more effective than admonishing people for having gay sex and using drugs without offering lower-risk alternatives. Do you have a better idea?

What's the fun in actually addressing a problem when you can get up on your moral high horse and pontificate instead?
 
I didn't state otherwise.

I've always thought that poverty and subsequent worse education lead to the observed discrepancies. If there are actual immunity differences between the "races" that's news to me, and I'm always very skeptical about this sort of claims. We're all extremely similar.
This.
The observed discrepancy,IMO, is largely due to the social factors rather than the biological ones. The black people are screwed in the past few centuries and now they are lagging behind.
 
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