Why is the symbol for the Euro, A woman Riding on a Beast?

[Grohan]

Why does not Europe have one single design for each coin, not one design for each different country for each coin?

Because I like collecting Euro coins of different countries

 

[Marla_Singer]

But it says Andorra on it

If I recall correctly, there's no Andorran euro coins. Spanish and French euro coins are used in Andorra. This being said, they were talking about issuing also Andorran coins just like San Marino, the Vatican City and Monaco already issues their specific coins. It's still a project and I've never seen any Andorran euro coins.

If Andorra don't issue their specific euro coins yet, it's mainly because Andorra had as official currency both the Spanish peseta and the French franc before the euro. They weren't issuing specific coins from those two currencies at the difference of Monaco which was already issuing specific francs, and at the difference of the Vatican City and San Marino which were already issuing specific italian liras.

This being said, I've never seen the project designs from Andorran coins. And I don't know if the ECB has allowed Andorra to issue their specific coins. I don't see why they wouldn't though.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

isnt that kind of too erotic to be on a coin? i mean i dont care, i think its cool, but havent the church/right wing moral types in greece complained about this?

this could never be on an american coin!

For many americans the Vatican must be some sort of sex-shop considering all those paintings with nude people.

 

[The Last Conformist]

For many americans the Vatican must be some sort of sex-shop considering all those paintings with nude people.

True, I suppose. I wonder what they'd said about the Athenian museum I was in last week ...

 

[Xen]

@Marla:
http://www.eurocoins.co.uk/andorra.html

 

[Marla_Singer]

@Marla:
http://www.eurocoins.co.uk/andorra.html

Thanks for the link Xen. Though there's no boat on that Andorran coin but an eagle. The other face of the coin, the tail face that seems to be pictured on the right side, can't be legal.

Indeed, there's only one national side for euro coins, the head face, and the tail face is common for all countries.

It looks this way and no coin with that face being different is legal in the euro-zone :

 

[Marla_Singer]

Actually Xen, you just have to read that website to see that this is not an official euro set but only fantasy coins :

Andorra uses the Euro, although it has not produced any euro coins of its own.

Before the advent of the euro, the Andorrans used either French or Spanish coins, and most shops would accept either currency. As France and Spain have now adopted the euro, the situation in Andorra has simplified, and Andorra simply uses euro coins and notes produced by any and all of the other member states of the EU. Although in the past there have been a number of Andorran commemorative coins issued, there appear to be no plans to issue euro coins. If the situation ever changes we will add Andorran euro coins to this page.

As at March 2003, we hear there were plans to make an unofficial set, but these are still at an early stage. We now expect these to available in October 2003. Please watch this page for further details and designs.

It's an old website. They didn't update informations since March 2003. I'll try to look forward to see if there's anything new about it.

 

[Xen]

Actually Xen, you just have to read that website to see that this is not an official euro set but only fantasy coins :



It's an old website. They didn't update informations since March 2003. I'll try to look forward to see if there's anything new about it.

I didnt really knwo what to make of it myself, but I figured the people who made the site woudl know more abou tthe situation, and it did say somthign about the andorran coins being in development.

anyway, that said, I do thinbk that if andorra was to create a unique set of europs, that that images on those coins would be used.

thier is also still a question as to why they have a boat on one fo thier coin faces

 

[Marla_Singer]

thier is also still a question as to why they have a boat on one fo thier coin faces

That kind of thing is made for collectionners. I guess there's certainly a Historical reason (which I don't know) but it's certainly also because it looks cool.

 

[Xen]

Personally, I would LOVE it if if they put the boat on thier to look cool. I might even be tempted to buy one if that was the case. (as a note, the countries with the currentlly most awesoem set of euros woudl be Italy and denmark- France had potential, but using the same peice of art work, while nice to look at, on all thier coinage loses points; most of the other euro using countries hold the same fate, only worse because they decorate it witht he face of the (current) monarch, which, while it makes sense, is harldey cool looking; Monaco, like France, as a very cool looking symbol, but since that single symbol is so widelly used, it looses points in my eyes.

That said, the ture "king of the Euro" is San Marino

http://www.eurocoins.co.uk/sanmarino.html

 

[Marla_Singer]

Personally, I would LOVE it if if they put the boat on thier to look cool. I might even be tempted to buy one if that was the case. (as a note, the countries with the currentlly most awesoem set of euros woudl be Italy and denmark- France had potential, but using the same peice of art work, while nice to look at, on all thier coinage loses points; most of the other euro using countries hold the same fate, only worse because they decorate it witht he face of the (current) monarch, which, while it makes sense, is harldey cool looking; Monaco, like France, as a very cool looking symbol, but since that single symbol is so widelly used, it looses points in my eyes.

That said, the ture "king of the Euro" is San Marino

http://www.eurocoins.co.uk/sanmarino.html

It's true the Italian set is cool, the Italian 1-euro coin is to me the most beautiful one. Incorporating the Man from Da Vinci in the circle from the coin is an awesome idea to me.

I tend also to like the Greek and the Portuguese sets. The Greek because coins are pretty in general and I like the use of the Greek mythology, the Portuguese because I think it's a great idea to have incorporated Portuguese seals from three different ages on the coins, and it looks really beautiful when you have those coins in the hand.

There are other coins I really enjoy, such as the Finnish 2-euro with flowers on them or the Austria 1-euro with Mozart.

About the coins I dislike, well, I think the Belgian set is the worst (no offence to either Belgians or the King Albert). After this, I don't like the French set at all. I wonder why they've added all those rays, the tree is really ugly and meaningless, and the Marianne on smaller coins look angry. I hope they'll change the French coins. I like German coins except the 1 and 2-euro with the eagle. It looks imperialistic to me and totally out of today's German identity.

About San Marino, Vatican and Monaco, I honnestly can't say because I haven't seen them for real.

And by the way, there's no Danish set... they aren't in the euro-zone.

 

[Quasar1011]

isnt that kind of too erotic to be on a coin? i mean i dont care, i think its cool, but havent the church/right wing moral types in greece complained about this?

this could never be on an american coin!

The young American republic, circa 1795-1804, had a "lady liberty" draped bust half dollar, that showed a bit of cleavage.

 

[Rik Meleet]

For who is interested; this is the non-consored Italian 1 eurocoin:

 

[Marla_Singer]

The young American republic, circa 1795-1804, had a "lady liberty" draped bust half dollar, that showed a bit of cleavage.

Woaw, we almost imagine she has breast on that coin ! Well, it seems puritanism is stronger today in the US than it used to be at the beginning of the Nation !

Actually, it makes me think of the French Marianne we could see on French 100-Franc notes when I was a child :

 

[Goonie]

Actually, while I'm not sure what Classic Hero is getting at, I'm guessing the main reason he brought it up was prophesy. In Revelation, the women riding the beast is a rather disturbing trademark of the rule of the anti-christ. However, this appears to be a 1 headed bull, not a multi-headed dragon.

And Classic Hero is from Australia, not America. Could we at least refrain from incessent USA bashing for a couple of pages?

Moderator Action: Get a thicker skin; there is absolutely no USA bashing in this thread, and certainly not in the posts above yours - Rik

C'mon, he has a point. I'm not American and I notice the snide little anti-american comments made by Marla. Whether or not I agree with her comments is irrelevant. While he may need thicker skin, do we really want to be calling him out for simply making a kind request? Perhaps you should have posted that as Rik and not a mod, since he didn't break any forum rules. The facted you 'rolleyed' him makes me question how deserving that comment was of mod tags.

I also love all the Euro coins. They are so much fun!

 

[Marla_Singer]

C'mon, he has a point. I'm not American and I notice the snide little anti-american comments made by Marla. Whether or not I agree with her comments is irrelevant. While he may need thicker skin, do we really want to be calling him out for simply making a kind request? Perhaps you should have posted that as Rik and not a mod, since he didn't break any forum rules. The facted you 'rolleyed' him makes me question how deserving that comment was of mod tags.

Hey ! I was just following Jawz comment ! I'm not the one who told that coin would be a scandal in the United States, Jawz told so ! Why Jawz weren't anti-American and I was then ?

Sorry, I stop here the chat about this topic since it's strictly forbidden by forum rules to comment moderators action. And if you want to continue this chat, then send me private messages.

 

[Hundegesicht]

Actually, I was talking about Jawz comment, not Marla's. (She was just making a reply, mostly) But who I was replying to isn’t really important, it wasn’t meant to be personal.

And I wasn't offended, just extremely annoyed. I really enjoy unique coin designs, especially of those of the Euro coins, which are very cool. Kind of like our state quarters, but more thoroughly localized.

So why oh why, when I enter a thread started by an Australian on the subject of European currency, do I have to read through absolutely trivial posts on how much my country sucks? America has absolutely nothing to do with European coins! As far as I know, America isn't even mentioned in the designs of any of the coins. Hell, America doesn't even have anything to do with Biblical prophesy, they didn't even know America existed back then!

Noooooo, I have to read about those prude, puritan Americans, and how they have no cultural taste. Censoring everything artistic. Man oh man, am *I* glad I don't have to be one of those backwards, Bush worshiping, Neanderthal Americans!

If it was just this topic, I wouldn't be pissed. But almost EVERY thread I click, it deviates from the subject matter to talk about how much American is stupid, or politically backwards, or uncultured, or fundamentalist, or homophobic, or conservative, or uneducated, or racist, or how the mosquitoes in the USA are of lesser quality than those in the rest of the world. (I'm surprised this hasn't already been brought up)

Well, guess what? I give up! You're right! My country sucks, and is worse than your country in every possible way! (And in many ways, I really believe that too) *I.* *Get* *It.* In fact, I’ll even change my sig to show how much I understand and agree with your point that the USA is crap.

Now please go back to posting about how much America sucks in the countless other threads already about how much America sucks so people like me can enjoy threads like this and talk about coins and Satan and the anti-Christ and little adorable ewok things in Star Wars without having the same, incessant, condescending, repetitive hate being shoved down our throats time and time again.

Is that so hard to do?

I know Americans aren't the only group that is bashed here. Almost any group of people or country is. But not even the 2nd most bashed group here (The French, the Christians, and the Muslims seem to be tied here) even come close to the amount of negative posts. I don’t make this plea out of patriotic pride, but out of human decency, mutual respect, and a desire for interesting posts:

Stop bashing the USA.

 

[Doc Tsiolkovski]

I like German coins except the 1 and 2-euro with the eagle. It looks imperialistic to me and totally out of today's German identity.

Actually, if the main coins wouldn't have shown that eagle, the Germans may have rejected the Euro. We were so used to those on our beloved D-Mark, if they wouldn't have shown up on the Euro again, it wouldn't have been consider a currency at all.
But, most people call that the "Bundesgeier" (Federal vulture) or "Bundesbrathuhn" (Federal Fried Chicken) anyway.

And yes, I really love the Italian coins as well. Especially the small ones (Castello del Monte on the 1c is my favorite).
French ones are boring. But at least, they didn't use the same image for every single coin. The Irish incarnation is acceptable (since that harp is quite nice)...but Belgium? Sorry, if a King is that *cough cough* attractive - better not use his image.

 

[Winner]

What after the new members join the eurozone? Or Norway? These coins will be outdated, excluding 10 members of EU.

 

[Jawz II]

C'mon, he has a point. I'm not American and I notice the snide little anti-american comments made by Marla. Whether or not I agree with her comments is irrelevant. While he may need thicker skin, do we really want to be calling him out for simply making a kind request? Perhaps you should have posted that as Rik and not a mod, since he didn't break any forum rules. The facted you 'rolleyed' him makes me question how deserving that comment was of mod tags.

I also love all the Euro coins. They are so much fun!

discussing mod actions can get you banned