Why no argument for abortion has ever worked.

[Manfred Belheim]

who just writes this?

The whole point was that it was an intrusive, personal question about a sensitive topic. "Do you like strawberries?" wouldn't really have worked.

 

[metalhead]

"Do you have any personal experience with abortion" in no way invites the retort "you post as if you were abused as a child."

"He was a dick first" is how first graders respond. I don't think your explanation is doing you any favors.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

"Do you have any personal experience with abortion, because you post as if you don't therefore I shall assume you don't" in no way invites the retort "Were you abused as a child, because you post as if you were therefore I shall assume you were."

In your opinion. Forgive my edit too, but you were representing it in a rather incomplete and unbalanced way.

 

[metalhead]

Which changes nothing. The proper adult response to someone saying something you find inappropriate or intrusive is not to then say something more inappropriate and more intrusive to them. "He started it" is quite literally a child's defense when they escalate a situation.

 

[mrt144]

I get that lots of people who call themselves pro-choice don't actually support late-term abortions. Lots do, though. And a LOT of the dialogue on the pro-choice side doesn't seem to have a natural exemption for the late fetus.

So, when someone says "that's a decision between the mother and the doctor", it's not really what they mean? It's more "that's a decision between the mother, doctor, and me"?

So you're tackling pro-choice from a semantic angle?

 

[El_Machinae]

No, I am undergoing a paradigm shift into what it means when someone identifies as pro-choice.

 

[mrt144]

No, I am undergoing a paradigm shift into what it means when someone identifies as pro-choice.

A vague sense of womb liberty for women carrying a fetus that varies from person to person?

Did that help?

 

[miaasma]

there's certainly nothing intrusive or inappropriate about asking somebody if they've had any personal experience with abortion when they've inserted themselves into a discussion about abortion

 

[mrt144]

Sometimes they even volunteer it cause they care that much about the positive benefits it had on their life

 

[Manfred Belheim]

there's certainly nothing intrusive or inappropriate about asking somebody if they've had any personal experience with abortion when they've inserted themselves into a discussion about abortion

I agree. When you summarise it in one sentence that is little more than the length of a tweet it does indeed seem reasonable. I guess that's why I don't bother with twitter.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Sorry. Sometimes your tone gets to me.

I would have thought that someone with a Retired Mod badge would know where the lines are in a Red Diamond thread.

How do you keep missing my point? My point is that your argument has been used by the pro-choice side to dismiss the ENTIRE pro-life argument as hypocritical based on the actions of a minority. I'm not saying YOU SPECIFICALLY do that.

You keep repeating yourself. I said "some". "Some" =/= "all."

No need to make up an issue to get offended at. No one's arguing about who does more charitable works except, apparently, you.

It's not made up if someone other than me already brought it up.

Sometimes they even volunteer it cause they care that much about the positive benefits it had on their life

Yeah, right. A female politician in Canada recently volunteered that she had an abortion 20 years ago because we in Alberta are facing the possibility of one of Stephen Harper's pet Reformacons becoming premier here in 2019, and he's been on record for many years as being anti-abortion and even pontificated how Prime Minister Paul Martin was a "bad Catholic" for tabling legislation to allow same-sex marriage. He was all in favor of Martin being excommunicated, and over the years he hasn't wavered from the idea that he gets to pick and choose which of his constituents he represents.

The female politician is right to be concerned that Jason Kenney could some day try to legislate American-style restrictions on access to abortion for Albertan women.