LegionSteve
Motörhead
There are extra resources in the Quot Capita mod. Tobacco is horrible because of the unhealth, I normally just build cottages on it. The others are all nice
Sadly no chickens though
Why no chickens?
- Thread starter LegioCorvus
- Start date
There are extra resources in the Quot Capita mod. Tobacco is horrible because of the unhealth, I normally just build cottages on it. The others are all nice
Sadly no chickens though
Tea would be a good resource to add. /my two cents
As for chickens, well they don't really require a tile to cultivate, do they? They are more of an urban agricultural animal, or a factory run agricultural animal, rather than a pasture animal. So it wouldn't really make sense dedicating a whole tile to them.
As for chickens, well they don't really require a tile to cultivate, do they? They are more of an urban agricultural animal, or a factory run agricultural animal, rather than a pasture animal. So it wouldn't really make sense dedicating a whole tile to them.
6K Man
Bureaucrat
I dunno, was there ever a time when vast untamed herds of chicken roamed the earth?
Deer do seem kind of minimally important in the real world - but I suppose without them, there'd be no way to ever feed Tundra cities (without seafood). So - game balance issue?
Deer do seem kind of minimally important in the real world - but I suppose without them, there'd be no way to ever feed Tundra cities (without seafood). So - game balance issue?
Mustakrakish
Deity
- Joined
- Sep 2, 2009
- Messages
- 2,525
Izmir Stinger
Deity
Birds group in flocks, not herds, and no. The probable ancestor of the modern chicken is a pheasant like bird confined to the jungles of India and SE Asia. Their primary adaptation for survival is not a means to avoid predators (they are fairly inept at doing so), but rather to reproduce so fast the population remains stable despite heavy predation. The females lay eggs very frequently, which is the attribute that made them an attractive candidate for domestication.
LegioCorvus
Prince
That explains a lot, doesn't it?
As for incense, I get it's historical importance, but it still just seems odd to me.
AfterShafter
Deity
Bushface
Deity
I think deer were chosen to provide a food resource in the sub-arctic regions, but for "deer" read "reindeer".
Another omission from the resources list is any kind of green vegetable; possibly Cabbage could be used representatively. Has anybody mentioned this previously ?
Another omission from the resources list is any kind of green vegetable; possibly Cabbage could be used representatively. Has anybody mentioned this previously ?
Yeah, because Arctic Silver Mines would be unworkable without Tundra Chickens to feed the miners.
Rusty Edge
Deity
Yeah, because Arctic Silver Mines would be unworkable without Tundra Chickens to feed the miners.
There's a town in Alaska named Chicken. It was supposed to be Ptarmigan( now the state bird ) , but neither the man sent to file incorporation papers nor the clerk in the courthouse could spell it.
Yes, I highly recommend mods with more resources such as LoR, or HitM.
I figure the deer represents the entire family- moose, elk, caribou, antelope, included.
Deer were the major source of clothing for the Iraquois . Daniel Boone was a market hunter for much of his life. He could sell the hides for a silver dollar each. They were sent to England. It was a critical source of currency for frontier families. Wars were fought over hunting grounds.
I imagine that those farms I build on the plains have chickens & goats. Until my lifetime, most farms and homes had chickens in coops or free ranging. I also figure those farms have barley, oats and rye or flax, root crops and cabbages, and forage for the animals. You know, the ubiquitous stuff.
capnvonbaron
Democratia gladii
My beef (no pun intended) is that crops and livestock are not spreadable. Horses were introduced to the western hemisphere and bred; now wild herds roam the west and can be rounded up and tamed. Corn was introduced to the eastern hemisphere, and is cultivated there today. Many other examples exist. And, after all, the central US isn't just a bunch of grass farms -- its corn, wheat, soy, and other important grains and produce.
Obviously climate plays a factor, but it would kinda be cool if a city with a certain resource (cow, pig, corn, wheat, et al) could create a "missionary" type of unit that could be used to spread a resource to another tile for a mild bonus. Give it a certain likelyhood of "taking", based on latitude, terrain type, and era of gameplay.
But alas, that would require a lot more programming and isn't really in the essence of the civ series. It probably wouldn't add much to gameplay except another level of pointless complexety. This is a game, people.
This concludes your RL check
Obviously climate plays a factor, but it would kinda be cool if a city with a certain resource (cow, pig, corn, wheat, et al) could create a "missionary" type of unit that could be used to spread a resource to another tile for a mild bonus. Give it a certain likelyhood of "taking", based on latitude, terrain type, and era of gameplay.
But alas, that would require a lot more programming and isn't really in the essence of the civ series. It probably wouldn't add much to gameplay except another level of pointless complexety. This is a game, people.
This concludes your RL check
Oh but there are chickens in the game! Open the city screen and you can hear them.
LegionSteve
Motörhead
Oh but there are chickens in the game! Open the city screen and you can hear them.
That's true! And in EVERY city. That backs up the point someone made earlier about chickens being a standard part of the farm improvement. Perhaps we can just assume that all land tiles producing at least 1 food contain some chickens, and that's why they don't need to be displayed as a special resource. That would also explain why you can hear them in the city screen.
6K Man
Bureaucrat
Well, the man does know a troubling amount of things about chicksn
Yeah... I was going to point out that my original comment about teeming herds of nomadic chicken was meant in jest. But I didn't have the heart to.
And then I got over that.
binhthuy71
Emperor
Why no chickens? Because if they give you the chickens then it's only a matter of time before you're back and clamoring for the Colonel Sid's Kentucky Fried Chicken corporation. That's why.
capnvonbaron
Democratia gladii
Not to mention opening up the whole conundrum of "what came first, the chicken resource or the egg resource??"
mica8911
Warlord
- Joined
- Jan 4, 2009
- Messages
- 109
Human life simply cannot exist without chickens.
TheMeInTeam
If A implies B...
- Joined
- Jan 26, 2008
- Messages
- 27,995
My beef (no pun intended) is that crops and livestock are not spreadable. Horses were introduced to the western hemisphere and bred; now wild herds roam the west and can be rounded up and tamed. Corn was introduced to the eastern hemisphere, and is cultivated there today. Many other examples exist. And, after all, the central US isn't just a bunch of grass farms -- its corn, wheat, soy, and other important grains and produce.
Obviously climate plays a factor, but it would kinda be cool if a city with a certain resource (cow, pig, corn, wheat, et al) could create a "missionary" type of unit that could be used to spread a resource to another tile for a mild bonus. Give it a certain likelyhood of "taking", based on latitude, terrain type, and era of gameplay.
But alas, that would require a lot more programming and isn't really in the essence of the civ series. It probably wouldn't add much to gameplay except another level of pointless complexety. This is a game, people.
This concludes your RL check
Unlike some game features, this diversion from realism makes sense. High food tiles and IMO the best strategic resource until combustion are just too strong to be spread easily.
Also, civs that happened to get pigs would just blow everyone who didn't away. It'd be like having biology in the BCs. Ouch.
Hsinchu
Prince
Mod out Cows for Chickens? I guess to keep balance, you have to lose a resource to get one back. So which resource do you want to consider replaceable by chickens? From then on we can say that bacon "Tastes like chicken" =)
