Wikileaks: Obama & Bush Administration Plan the Transfer of Power Prior to the 2008 Election

[civman110]

I know you think this, but politics isn't about teams, and it isn't about winning.

Now if that statement isn't the epitome of irony I don't know what is.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Now if that statement isn't the epitome of irony I don't know what is.

My guess: you don't know what is. Add to long list.

 

[Leoreth]

What do you mean by this?

What he means by this is that due to either his privilege or ignorance, he can treat politics solely as picking your team and deriving a sense of self worth from seeing it win.

This perception in turn leads him to construct conspiracy theories to explain apparent losses to preserve this sense of self worth.

Ironic isn't it?

 

[Zelig]

Is there a point to this thread?

 

[Leoreth]

Is there a point to this thread?

when trump is president, then you will realize

 

[AdrienIer]

That's good news. In France there's generally a scorched earth policy when the presidency changes, which is a terrible way to transition. Good for you, USA.

 

[mrt144]

What he means by this is that due to either his privilege or ignorance, he can treat politics solely as picking your team and deriving a sense of self worth from seeing it win.

This perception in turn leads him to construct conspiracy theories to explain apparent losses to preserve this sense of self worth.

Ironic isn't it?

Game. Set. Match.

 

[civman110]

Only breitbart can break a story through wikileaks that was already known publically, as well as the fact that BOTH McCain and Obama had transition teams well before the election

The Obama-Biden transition project started ~10 weeks before the end of the election

How incredible of a breaking story is it for breitbart that Obama's transition team was planning a response to George W Bush's invitation to a summit on Nov 15 if he were to be the "President Elect" (that's the "top email" breitbart leads with)

yawn. A presidential transition team is planning some of the 1100 presidential appointees before the election is over? EVIL

Your article is from the day after the election. Wikileaks is from before the election.

Your other article is about Obama and McCain preparing a trasnsition team. Not actually planning the transition of power with the Bush administration.

Do you even read what you post?

 

[Kennigit]

I already know you don't and/or can't read, but I suggest trying:

The transition process started quietly about 10 weeks ago, when Obama asked Podesta to begin a full-scale review of the federal government and to compile lists of potential hires. Podesta, who now runs the Center for American Progress (CAP), a progressive think tank, created a transition board that included Clinton administration alumni, CAP colleagues and several of Obama's outside advisers. Obama has participated little in this exercise beyond urging aides to look at all sorts of candidates, including Republicans (retiring Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska is most often mentioned) and individuals from the business community.

 

[fay902]

What he means by this is that due to either his privilege or ignorance, he can treat politics solely as picking your team and deriving a sense of self worth from seeing it win.

This perception in turn leads him to construct conspiracy theories to explain apparent losses to preserve this sense of self worth.

Ironic isn't it?

It's dangerous to treat politics as a spectator sport like civman110 is.

 

[civman110]

I already know you don't and/or can't read, but I suggest trying:

The transition process started quietly about 10 weeks ago, when Obama asked Podesta to begin a full-scale review of the federal government and to compile lists of potential hires. Podesta, who now runs the Center for American Progress (CAP), a progressive think tank, created a transition board that included Clinton administration alumni, CAP colleagues and several of Obama's outside advisers. Obama has participated little in this exercise beyond urging aides to look at all sorts of candidates, including Republicans (retiring Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska is most often mentioned) and individuals from the business community.

This isn't planning the tradition of power with the Bush administration. It's creating a team to do that. Is English not your first language?

Interestingly, your article does say this though:

"Both campaigns refused to discuss their transition plans, saying they did not want to jinx their chances or appear too cocky. The Obama campaign was stung in July when Republicans called Mr. Obama presumptuous for lining up transition advisers."

 

[Timsup2nothin]

It's dangerous to treat politics as a spectator sport like civman110 is.

Not when you are a totally non-threatening entity like Civman.

 

[Kennigit]

You're almost there civman

read literally the next sentences......

"Clay Johnson III, deputy director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, said “the White House staff has met with transition representatives” for Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama.

“Both campaigns are doing what they need to do to be prepared to govern on Jan. 20 at noon,” said Mr. Johnson, who was executive director of the Bush transition team in 2000-1. “The amount of work being done before the election, formal and informal, is the most ever.”

Did they go to swap recipes at these meetings?

 

[fay902]

You're almost there civman

read literally the next sentences......

"Clay Johnson III, deputy director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, said “the White House staff has met with transition representatives” for Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama.

“Both campaigns are doing what they need to do to be prepared to govern on Jan. 20 at noon,” said Mr. Johnson, who was executive director of the Bush transition team in 2000-1. “The amount of work being done before the election, formal and informal, is the most ever.”

Did they go to swap recipes at these meetings?

At this point I wouldn't even bother with him anymore to be honest.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

No matter how many low hanging pinatas come up empty they are still fun to hit with a bat.

 

[FriendlyFire]

"The emails show a transition plan being worked on before the 2008 election had taken place

Thanks Obama Truman
I bet the majority of Republicans are Shocked, SHOCKED and Outraged to find out this has been happening for more then 50 years.

 

[Zkribbler]

Remember how shocked the Republicans were that Obama won? They were predicting a GOP blow out.

 

[mrt144]

Remember how shocked the Republicans were that Obama won? They were predicting a GOP blow out.

To put it bluntly, they erroneously think everyone is as cynical as they are.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Remember how shocked the Republicans were that Obama won? They were predicting a GOP blow out.

???

I was a volunteer on the McCain campaign and I don't recall anyone even thinking we had a chance. GWBush had so badly tarnished the GOP brand that JHC couldn't have pulled that one out.

 

[mrt144]

???

I was a volunteer on the McCain campaign and I don't recall anyone even thinking we had a chance. GWBush had so badly tarnished the GOP brand that JHC couldn't have pulled that one out.

Maybe the campaign itself didn't believe it but I remember many teary eyed Republicans so confident that everything was bad news for Obama.