JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
From what I've heard, West Virginia is Republican.
Will this be the electoral map in 2004?
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I don't think anybody mentioned West Virginia. 
Adso de Fimnu
Prince
Iowas have voted Democratic for every election since Bush Sr. I see no reason why they'd change this year. Is it that 'No Child Left Behind' thing that has swayed us Iowans, with our emphasis on education? It seems Bush has taken away the Democrats' key issues--now they're only left with foreign policy to squabble about. All the same, I hope Kerry wins.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
West Virginia was mentioned in that last map as being only slightly Republican.
Oh, well....I don't know. WV got hit economically fairly hard, IIRC...may be enough to convince about 13 voters...which is like 2% of the entire state right there 
Just kidding.
I haven't seen polls just in WV, so maybe the website where WV is now pinkish knows something I don't.
Just kidding.I haven't seen polls just in WV, so maybe the website where WV is now pinkish knows something I don't.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
Well, I suppose it doesn't matter. When has West Virginia ever decided an election?
sonorakitch
Overseas hunter
"When has West Virginia ever decided an election?"
2000.
2000.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
sonorakitch said:
I was being sarcastic. Every state decides the election.
mazzz
Emperor
sonorakitch said:
If Gore would have one WV then it of been Gore:265 Bush:273
Bush still would have won regardless of WV
TECHNICALLY, each state makes a decision during the election, through the electoral votes. We're getting caught up in semantics here....but with how tight this could be...you never really know, though big ticket states like Ohio and Florida are more obvious.
Hygro
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It's Democrat but is big on the coal industry, and Democrats are less and less coal friendly, which has caused it to be more Republican recently.John HSOG said:
I read a fairly convincing argument that if Gore hadn't been more or less against coal power they would have gone with him. Of course, had he not vocalized against coal power, Ralph Nader probably would have picked up as many votes from disinfranchised Democrats as Gore would have wonJohn HSOG said:
I'd say Kerry is slipping more and more here in Minnesota.
Dean Johnson (State Senate Majority Leader) and the rest of the DFL (local arm of the Democratic Party) have throughly #$%&ed up the state's legislature, as well, Governor Pawlenty's (R) numbers remain strong.
After all, sometimes we learn from our mistakes. We helped Mondale in '84, but he lost out on Wellstone's senate seat two years ago.
Dean Johnson (State Senate Majority Leader) and the rest of the DFL (local arm of the Democratic Party) have throughly #$%&ed up the state's legislature, as well, Governor Pawlenty's (R) numbers remain strong.
After all, sometimes we learn from our mistakes. We helped Mondale in '84, but he lost out on Wellstone's senate seat two years ago.
sonorakitch
Overseas hunter
"If Gore would have one WV then it of been Gore:265 Bush:273
Bush still would have won regardless of WV"
Wrong. West Virginia is 5 electoral votes. Bush won 271-267. Thus, had Gore won West Virginia, the outcome would have been Bush 266, Gore 272. A Gore victory. Thank goodness it didn't happen.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/election/map.htm
~Chris
Bush still would have won regardless of WV"
Wrong. West Virginia is 5 electoral votes. Bush won 271-267. Thus, had Gore won West Virginia, the outcome would have been Bush 266, Gore 272. A Gore victory. Thank goodness it didn't happen.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/election/map.htm
~Chris
WV is pro-guns, pro-life, pro-bullcrap. We usually elect Democrat governors, legislators, senators and representatives, and until 2000, Presidents. But the school I go to, almost every single teacher and student there hates George Bush. Every day our art teacher comes to my US History class and tells us how evil George Bush was and how he jokes about the war and crap. I was leaving a Young Democrats meeting and my Vice Principal stopped me and told me I was in the wrong party :O I think that WV's pretty evenly split. I had to make a speech during veteran's day in Grafton, WV home to WV's only National Cemetary, and every veteran I talked to was pro-Kerry. "What about John Kerry?" "Good man." "What about Joe Manchin (WV Democrat
Governor nominee)" "Good man." So who know's who will win WV.
Governor nominee)" "Good man." So who know's who will win WV.
mazzz
Emperor
John Edwards says that it was bush:278 gore:260
http://www.johnedwards2004.com/map/index.asp?printer=1&
maybe Jown Edwards was drunk when he made it?
http://www.johnedwards2004.com/map/index.asp?printer=1&
maybe Jown Edwards was drunk when he made it?
It might have something to do with the changes in electoral votes of the states since the 2000 census.
For instance, I think New York lost a couple votes while some went to Texas and Florida.
For instance, I think New York lost a couple votes while some went to Texas and Florida.
SeleucusNicator
Diadoch
The Yankee said:
Yes. Republicans tend to have more children then Democrats, so the Bush states grew in electoral worth after the 2000 census. The states had different electoral values for the 2000 election.
And maybe the Republicans in blue states like New York moved to Florida.
So John Edwards's map is accurate, showing the states Gore won in 2004 electoral votes. Sounds almost like talking about 1996 dollars to get rid of inflation...
