[WIP] Project Civ: A Quality-Oriented Civ Pack

Genghis.Khan · Nov 19, 2012

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Genghis.Khan · Nov 19, 2012

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Irkalla · Nov 19, 2012

About making a naval unit disembark to a settler, I think you're thinking about it backwards. What about a settler that can embark and has proper strength? Maybe I can give them buffs to account for the fact that I'm going to HAVE to make cities stop food production while building them.

Also, I'm going to re-write your writings and re-post them. There's a few things that bother me about it.

About roads over Folwarks, I wish there were some way to tell if the road was part of a trade route. Also, I was thinking of using a recoloured plantation or something.

Irkalla · Nov 20, 2012

I think I'm ready to tell you who is working with us.

He is...

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Genghis.Khan · Nov 22, 2012

Great Art!

It would be perfect if it was on 3D, but still good

Genghis.Khan · Nov 22, 2012

I checked the French Granadier.... It seems real
Check it out here

Irkalla · Nov 22, 2012

Genghis.Khan said:
Great Art!

It would be perfect if it was on 3D, but still good

From my experiences, the probability of acquiring team members increases proportional to the size of your team.

That said, our odds of acquiring someone that is willing to do 3D work have doubled.

Anyway, I just got back from stuffing my fat ass with turkey and dressing and such. Time to put my boots back on.

Genghis.Khan · Nov 23, 2012

Just got an Idea on how to solve the Polish Trait.

Make the unresearchable Polish Tech, disable it for every Other Civs using .sql, add it to the Polish Free Tech List and Hide It after Future Tech. That way in late starts no one will get that technology. Maybe use .lua to make it invisible. Basically

Do all this hacky crap and BAM!

Moriboe · Nov 23, 2012

One catch: I believe it will mess up the tech tree if an ancient tech is placed there. The graphical era division is made dynamically and I have witnessed what a simple non-alignment mistake can do. And you do want it to be an ancient tech.

Genghis.Khan · Nov 23, 2012

You cant probably place techs before Agriculture beacuse it would be placing in -1 X

Moriboe · Nov 23, 2012

You can if you edit TechTree.lua, which I had for my mod. But overriding those files reduces compatibility.

Irkalla · Nov 23, 2012

I was just gonna make a rogue tech. The problem with pre-agriculture is that if you start in anything but ancient, everyone's probably going to get that tech. If you put it after future tech, the the player that gets that tech will instantly be in the future era.

Thus I'm just gonna make a rogue tech and see how that goes.

Why did Poland's trait need a tech again? In that other thread, I was talking about a civ that kinda slipped in under the radar. It was one of the original 5 civs I had come up with but just couldn't figure out. The other 4 being Sumer, Hittites, Kingdom of Israel (limbo,) and Assyrians (cut.)

I was really at the point to where I was gonna cut the Phoenicians and not announce them, but hey, it's all figured out. Their trait may very well be OP as hell, and they may wind up going on the chopping block again.

Heh, I should go into detail about the ones I've cut. For some reason or another, I've cut all these.

Civilization | Reason Cut
Akkadian Empire|Too many Mesopotamian Civs, Short-lived
Hungarian Empire|Austria, towards which it was not dominant, Included in Gods and Kings
Assyrian Empire|Too many Mesopotamian Civs, Lack of historical evidence on which to base Unique Items
Choctaw Empire|Mississippians included
Khmer Empire|Too much in common with Siam

Also, I've been playing around with the idea of a civ in the Oceania area, but I just can't seem to find one that was a coherent entity that had an effect on any culture besides their own.

AessaSH · Nov 23, 2012

Irkalla said:
...Also, I've been playing around with the idea of a civ in the Oceania area, but I just can't seem to find one that was a coherent entity that had an effect on any culture besides their own.

Ehm.. How about Java?
No.., not that programming language, not the coffee too..

Well.., they are not in the Oceania.., but they are both in the middle of ocean.. :lol:

Genghis.Khan · Nov 24, 2012

No Assyrians... But you´re rigt. It would be the 1000th Mesoptamian Civ

Genghis.Khan · Nov 24, 2012

So the Civs are:

1. Poland
2. The Kingdom of Israel
3. Sumer (RELEASED!)
4. Portugal

Irkalla · Nov 24, 2012

Genghis.Khan said:
So the Civs are:

1. Poland
2. The Kingdom of Israel
3. Sumer (RELEASED!)
4. Portugal

I've also got Sparta, the Zulu, the Hittites (in limbo,) the Phoenicians, the Mississippians, the Inuit, and Tibet.

The ones I'd be expecting the soonest are Zulu, Phoenicians, Sparta, and Poland. If I get one figured out, though, you'll see it go up on the drawing board. Go see the second post of this thread.

Genghis.Khan · Nov 25, 2012

Irkalla said:
The Drawing Board

[SIZE="+1"]Sparta[/SIZE]
Leader: Leonidas (Who the hell else?)
Unique Unit: Phalanx - Higher strength than the Spearman, which it replaces. +50% Fortified Strength.
Unique Unit: Peltast - While having the same strength as the Composite Bowman, which it replaces, the Peltast ignores terrain cost and has a chance to withdraw.
Unique Ability: Walls of Sparta - The current, non-ranged land unit appears in your Capital on its every Population Growth. Cannot build walls.

The "current, non-ranged" clause will wind up being like this, with units trumping other units. Warrior < Phalanx < Swordsman < Longswordsman < Musketman < Rifleman < Great War Infantry < Infantry < Mechanized Infantry < GDR.

[SIZE="+1"]the Zulu[/SIZE]
Leader: Shaka
Unique Unit: Impi - Has 3 Movement Points, unlike the Spearman which it replaces. +50% Flanking Bonus.
Unique Building: Ikhanda - -20% Maintenance cost and +15 XP for all units built in this city. Replaces Barracks.
Unique Ability: Triumph at Isandlwana - 25% bonus vs. higher tech units in friendly territory.

[SIZE="+1"]the Phoenicians[/SIZE]
Leader: Hiram? Pygmalion?
Unique Unit: Bireme or Unireme? Maybe a waterborne settler replacement that can instantly cross ocean tiles from the start?
Unique Item 2: Don't know yet.
Unique Ability: Perspicacity - Reveals Luxury Resources which other Civilizations may neither see nor acquire with improvements. (Murex[coast], Gorillas[jungle], Cedars[forest], Silphium[plains], Obsidian[grassland]. A couple of these aren't related to the Phoenicians, but were ancient resources in high demand. The idea behind so many is so that no matter where they start, they should have a decent chance of picking up on of their UA luxuries.)

New City State: Dilmun (Mercantile)
New City State: Washshukanni (Militaristic)

I'll add more at a later time. Also, going to take the Hittites back to the drawing board. I'm playing with them pretty much being the first users of Iron. Any ideas?

Spartan Trait... Too overpowered, a 40 :c5citizen:

city would recieve 40 Units?! And Sparta as a Civilization... It is represented by Greece...

For the city states I can make them. Its pretty simple. If you want I´ll send you the .xml file tomorrow

Irkalla · Nov 25, 2012

Genghis.Khan said:
2 OP 4 ME

It only applies for the Capital's growths. In addition, they can't build ANY defensive buildings since they can't build walls.

Genghis.Khan said:
... Sparta as a Civilization... It is represented by Greece...

Fun fact: Sparta was never a part of Alexander's Empire. It was its own political entity all the way up until the Roman conquest.

Hell, for that matter, Babylon is represented by the Abbasid Caliphate, and so is Carthage and Egypt.

The thing is, the Spartans were considerably different and probably had the greatest impact on the world out of all the civs in the game.

That one fateful battle, where, among others, the 300 Spartiates gave their lives in defence of Greece, is the ONLY reason we have Democracy today. Without Sparta, there wouldn't be democracy in our world today. There wouldn't have been a democratic Athens for people to glean the idea from. There probably wouldn't have been a Roman Republic either, as the Roman Republic only controlled the areas around Rome and Ostia when the Battle of Thermopylae was being fought. Would Greece have fallen, the Italic tribes wouldn't have stood a chance.

Most people look at Athens, or the Roman Republic, but the greatest thanks for a Democratic world is to Sparta for defending democracy by defending Greece (and therefore Athens.) Such a radical idea would have never survived if not for their defence of Greece.

It's easy to underestimate Sparta's impact on our world.

Genghis.Khan said:
For the city states I can make them. Its pretty simple. If you want I´ll send you the .xml file tomorrow

Nah bro I got it. Thanks for volunteering, though.

Genghis.Khan · Nov 25, 2012

Irkalla said:
It only applies for the Capital's growths. In addition, they can't build ANY defensive buildings since they can't build walls.

Fun fact: Sparta was never a part of Alexander's Empire. It was its own political entity all the way up until the Roman conquest.

Hell, for that matter, Babylon is represented by the Abbasid Caliphate, and so is Carthage and Egypt.

The thing is, the Spartans were considerably different and probably had the greatest impact on the world out of all the civs in the game.

That one fateful battle, where, among others, the 300 Spartiates gave their lives in defence of Greece, is the ONLY reason we have Democracy today. Without Sparta, there wouldn't be democracy in our world today. There wouldn't have been a democratic Athens for people to glean the idea from. There probably wouldn't have been a Roman Republic either, as the Roman Republic only controlled the areas around Rome and Ostia when the Battle of Thermopylae was being fought. Would Greece have fallen, the Italic tribes wouldn't have stood a chance.

Most people look at Athens, or the Roman Republic, but the greatest thanks for a Democratic world is to Sparta for defending democracy by defending Greece (and therefore Athens.) Such a radical idea would have never survived if not for their defence of Greece.

It's easy to underestimate Sparta's impact on our world.

Nah bro I got it. Thanks for volunteering, though.

If... Dont play that game. Possibily If the last of Jack Ripper´s victim escaped and killed him Britain would be a Communist State, and the World Would become a Nuclear Nightmare (City of Shadows by Alex Scarrow). Nobody knows what would happen "If"...

On another topic the Spartan Trait is WAY OVERPOWERED.

Maybe something like Recieve a Free Unit When at War or Units are 30% cheaper (But Could be Exploited)

Irkalla · Nov 25, 2012

Genghis.Khan said:
If... Dont play that game. Possibily If the last of Jack Ripper´s victim escaped and killed him Britain would be a Communist State, and the World Would become a Nuclear Nightmare (City of Shadows by Alex Scarrow). Nobody knows what would happen "If"...

On another topic the Spartan Trait is WAY OVERPOWERED.

Maybe something like Recieve a Free Unit When at War or Units are 30% cheaper (But Could be Exploited)

It's not a tough bet to make. Democracy would have died with Greece.

About the trait, I can test it and then cut it down to like one free unit for every 2 capitol citizens or 1 for every 3.

Also, in other news, I believe I've figured out Poland.

Leader: Sigismund Augustus
Unique Unit: Husaria
Unique Unit: Uhlan
Unique Attribute: Golden Liberty - Specialists produce an additional Great Person point. 33% less Maintenance paid on Mounted Units.

I just need to work out the specifics on the UU's now.

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