Wiz05 - Basic OCC

Turnlog:

Preturn: Ok, let's see how we are doing, looks good. :) Seems like there is a lot of cultural pressure on the Chinese border. Nice gpt, BTW! :eek: Press enter.

1285AD [2]: Monte would want a MPP, I refuse. I don't trust the AI when they offer that.

1295AD [4]: I switch a mined plains tile to a Floodplain tile in Moscow, still Shake's in 1. And no more hunger.

IBT: Moscow builds Shakespeares theatre! :) > bank.

America switches to Magellans.

1300AD [5]: India does not wish to extend the saltpeter + RoP + 96 gpt for RoP trade. Sign RoP for 4gpt.

1310AD [7]: Rush bank in Moscow for 424 gp.

IBT: Moscow bank > Smith's. Nothing else to build.

1315AD [8]: Mao would sell communism for 2350 gp. :lol:

Americans build Magellans in Ulundi.

1325AD [10]: Shaka doesn't want to continue the trade, I sign a new one: Rop + furs for RoP + 4gpt.

Cleo isn't willing to continue the Iron + RoP trade, I say I'll pay some gold for it, to be precise 18gpt and she says ok, let's trade then.

Washington complete's Smiths. No ToE prebuild then. :undecide: Switch to court, lose 6 shields.

Doh. The game crashes. Luckily the autosaves are there. But I don't wanna continue then again, so here you go.

Next better player
 
TOE on the way

1330 AD (0)
Moscow Smiths->riflemen
A bunch of deals expire on the IBT.
1335 AD (1)
Moscow rifle->granary
1340 AD (2)
IBT- We learn Sanitation
Sanitiation to Persia for 101gpt
Sanitiation + 34gpt to China for Electricity
Sanitation to India for 47gpt
Electricity + Sanitation to America for Communism + WM + 9g + 15gpt
Sanitation to Aztecs for ROP + horses

Research is set for Scientific Method
1345 AD (3)
Industrialization is available for trade and America starts Universal Sufferage.
Rush a longbow in Moscow for 60g and switch to granary.
1350 AD (4)
Moscow granary->hospital
1355 AD (5)
Rush hospital in Moscow
India + Egypt sign MPP
1360 AD (6)
Moscow Hospital->Police station (prebuild)
Renew ROP with China for 1 more gpt.
1365 AD (7)
Buy Industrialization from India for WM + 1000g + 30gpt.
Rush the factory in Moscow for 856g
1370 AD (8)
Moscow grows to a size 13 Metropolis.
Factory is complete, and a Universal Sufferage prebuild for TOE is started.
Renew coal deal with Persia for 10gpt.
Buy a ROP from Persia for 7gpt (they briefly went Cautious)
1380 AD (10)
China declares war on Persia :eek:
They capture Gulamann and about 12 Chinese cavalry cross our rails into Persian territory.
1385 AD (11)
Persia buys America against China.
They then proceed to destroy the entire Chinese invasion force, recapture their city, and begin the counter-invasion of China in one turn.
Replaceable Parts is now widely available for trade.
1390 AD (12)
America is building TOE.
Sell WM + 10g to China for a worker, then buy Scientific Method from them for 30g.
Science is turned off and Moscow is switched to TOE due in 11 turns.
1395 AD (13)
Persia razes a large Chinese city, and our borders expand to fill the empty space.
I purchase wines and silks from China for 90g to give them some infantry upgrade money.
1400 AD (14)
War continues to be fought across our territory.
1405 AD (15)
War continues.
TOE is due in 6 turns and we have a treasury of 3760g @ +136gpt.
>>SAVE<<
 
Nice turn Zwingli, all I can say is......... What the hell was Mao thinking??:lol:

Got it, I'm up in 2 other SGs but I'll play this one first thing tomorrow since the turns are short.
 
Flight Check: A cultural powerhouse- we’re at 78 cpt with our Coliseum, Uni, & Sistine all doubling in the next 200 years. That will be 12 more cpt not counting what we get from ToE & Hoover. Culture is looking good, we just gotta stay outa war.

Buy a worker off Monty for 27g, then immediately sell him our WM for 17.

I’d keep at least a scientist working on techs, but since it was Zwingli who went with 0 research I will humbly leave it alone.

1- Watch Persia continue slaughtering Chinese, no cities taken yet though.
Aztecs are building US.
Renegotiate our RoP with Gandhi for 3gpt & 6g.
Sell WM around for change.

2- Add our native worker back to Moscow.
Position 2 swords so that Persian Infs will have to waste a turn running through our territory, but the Chinese can cut right though.

3- Xerxes & Abe sign a MPP.

4- :sleep:

5- Lose our supply of iron. Cleo is suddenly annoyed with us. Agree to an RoP for 3gpt & she goes back to polite.
Xerxes & Abe have Corporation. Unfortunately they’re the only ones with gpt to give so buying it to sell is out of the question. I shell out 50gpt & 762g for it anyways. That should keep Xerxes off our back & I have a plan………. I hope.:lol:

6- We complete ToE. I choose Atomic Theory & Refining. Moscow starts on a coal plant.

The reason I didn’t go with AT & Electronics is cause we can’t let anyone else get Hoover. I’m willing to wager that once we have a coal plant Moscow can out produce any city on the planet(even with their Monarch bonus), the only way we’d lose Hoover is if someone cascaded to it(currently there are 4 civs building US, last turn it was 3 building ToE and 3 building US so someone’s going to be getting it very soon. Not selling the techs we get isn’t an option, we need the cash unless we want to stay in the Industrial Age the rest of the game, and if I sold them Electronics someone would cascade to it shortly & we wouldn’t have a prayer. Hopefully it pays off.

Sell AT & Refining to Xerxes for 351gpt, 900g, Rep Parts, and spices.
Ha! We have rubber.[dance]
Sell AT & Refining to Abe for 147gpt & 2354g. I feel kinda jipped, I figured I get way more then that from Abe. Damn misleading monopoly price!

This brings us to 7123g & 480gpt.
I put a scientist into researching Electronics.
Upgrade our rifles for 60g.
Old habits die hard, sell our WM around for change.

7- Horses/RoP wish Monty runs out. Give him 2gpt & 5g for the RoP renewal.
Surprisingly Mao is holding his own, he hasn’t lost a city. Too bad the WW has forced him into Anarchy.

8- I forgot you need coal and iron to build railroads. Doh!! :lol: Shows how often I don’t have iron in the Industrial Age. Buy Iron & 3 slaves off Mao for 20gpt & 10g to help out his war effort while in anarchy.
Sell map around for 18g.

9- HA! A Chinese Cav army marches into Persian territory.
Xerxes has an extra supply of oil. He says it’s not possible to buy when I ask what he wants for it, then quickly agrees when I offer 1g. Hmm, I’m waiting for the catch here. :confused:
Sell map around for 21g.

10- Cultural influence expands. 10000 culture![dance]
Coal plant completes, up to 68spt.
I give Monty Corporation for Espionage, horses, WM, and all his gold. Gets him back to gracious.
Start on Intelligence Agency. (It has culture, and will make for a nice prebuild if someone happens to get US in the next 5 turns, which I’m praying they do cause I’m getting nervous over here. However, it goes without saying that spys are OFF limits.:lol: )
Sell WM around.
Yea, I have troops in China watching the show. So what?! And I wonder why my turns take so long.:rolleyes:

If my gambit doesn’t pay off and it’s like 20 turns before someone completes US feel free to beat me with fishes.;)

save

[it's only 10, but I won't be able to play anymore until late tonight, so I figured you'd like to know what's going on. Lemme know if you want me to finish them when I get back or just leave it at that?]
 
Well, Elvis could take the turns and you could play the turns then or you could play them this evening. I'm fine with both.
 
Go ahead & play, I got back later then I thought I would. Not to mention you havn't gotten any turns in a while.
 
Good thinking on snagging Universal Sufferage Elvis :goodjob:. With 4 civs piled on the Chinese, it looks like they are not long for this world. It is in our interest to see them last as long as possible to keep everyone's armies busy.

The tech pace is really flying now, and a diplomatic victory might even be available before cultural. I would suggest trying to reseach Radio at max science now that we have Electronics since it is usually ignored by the AI.


Edit: I seem to be unable to open the 1530 save, it produces a Data IO error.
 
Excellent turn, too bad you have to duplicate it. :(

Looks like my paranioa was unnessasary, excellent play switching to US.
 
Maybe Gengis should name the save something like "wiz5_date_open in vanilla_civ_only.sav". :p
 
Actually it wouldn't be my turn, I went just before Elvis.
 
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