Wordle

[choxorn]

Wordle 228 2/6

Hah! I got lucky on 2nd guess

I only got it on the 2nd guess once, and that was because the actual word had 4 out of the 5 letters I used in my first guess, with 2 of those 4 in the correct place.

 

[Samson]

Which dictionary is used for this Wordle thing?

I think there are 2 lists, an answers list (presumably an "everyone knows these words" list) that is 2315 words long and an accepted guesses list which is 10,657 words long, excluding the answers list.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Wordle is a lot of fun, and I haven't lost a game yet.

There are 26 letters in the alphabet, and 5 of them are in the word. On your first guess you have a chance of 5/26 of matching at least one letter, which is very good. If you try different words using different letters, you will have 20/26 by the time you have made your 4th guess. While it's possible you won't have uncovered any letters yet, it's statistically unlikely. Once you get a few letters, either Yellow (present but wrong position), or better yet Green, it's not too difficult to start working out what the word might be. Having letters eliminated helps a lot too with narrowing down what is in the word.

If you haven't played then I highly recommend it, the game is a lot of fun!

https://www.powerlanguage.co.uk/wordle/

Tried, and decided to go back to some of my word games from BFG. Spellspire, for example.

 

[Takhisis]

I don't quite understand the appeal of this wordle thing.
Maybe because I'm a binge gamer who plays strategy games or RPGs for hours instead of *shudders* smartphone ‘games’, but it's just a minute at most and then you win.

I think I'll just rejoin the control group.

 

[MaryKB]

Today was my closest to losing, but I just barely figured it out at guess #6.

Spoiler :

SKILL

 

[GinandTonic]

I just failed wordle for the first time

 

[tjs282]

I just failed wordle for the first time

Today's was tricky — took me 5 guesses...

Spoiler Don't open if you haven't done today's puzzle yet! :

R A T E S = E correctly placed, R present but misplaced, A + T + S wrong
M I R E D = E correctly placed, R + D present but misplaced, M + I wrong
O R D E R = D + E + R correctly placed, O wrong
U N D E R = D + E + R correctly placed, U + N wrong

Hang on, there's no other vowels except E? Well, in that case, let's try...

Spoiler I said, no peeking! :

E L D E R

 

[choxorn]

Took me 6 guesses to get there.

 

[GinandTonic]

I fluffed it trying for different vowels.

 

[CKS]

It only took me 3 tries, but I don't play on hard mode. My second word shares no letters with my first word, and if I don't have a pretty good idea after two words, my third word shares only one letter with the first two. After two words yesterday (the today of the above posts), I knew the 2nd and last letters, and I knew the vowels and another consonant, but not their locations, although in this case it was pretty obvious.

Playing in hard mode, having to use all the letters that work in every guess, seems to up the difficulty a lot, and I don't want to think that hard.

 

[GinandTonic]

I knew the vowels

Man better win word game understand plurals?

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In so much as the whole difficulty of the wordle was its mono-vowel nature.

 

[The_J]

Moderator Action: Moved various wordle posts to a new thread.

It only took me 3 tries, but I don't play on hard mode. My second word shares no letters with my first word, and if I don't have a pretty good idea after two words, my third word shares only one letter with the first two. After two words yesterday (the today of the above posts), I knew the 2nd and last letters, and I knew the vowels and another consonant, but not their locations, although in this case it was pretty obvious.

What are you using as words?
I normally go "later", "moist" and "ducks" (or... that other word...), which covers a lot of characters.

I was disappointed that "sneer" is apparently not a word ^^. The result was "elder" a few days ago, but I could have been right too, hrmpf.

 

[El_Machinae]

I'm color-blind, so my first failure was pretty epic. Nearly every single letter (but one) were in the wrong place (so, I though I had four in the right place, because I just didn't think of checking to see if I had the colors right). I had a heck of a time figuring out the fifth letter, but I eventually did with a late-evening 'eureka!'. And so, I was wrong.

 

[GinandTonic]

Wordle in two. I have atoned for yesterday.

I Always open with THEIR - 4 of the 6 most frequent letters.

 

[red_elk]

It looks like there is almost universal opening strategy, taking few initial guesses with same words with non-repeating letters.
Didn't try hard mode yet, may be more interesting.
Funny that English version seems easier than Russian even for me.

 

[Samson]

Funny that English version seems easier than Russian even for me.

I bet it is todo with the word lists. I think the russian ones are embedded here, but with the words in unicode and my browser just displays codes, not that they would mean anything to me. If you want the word it is here anyway.

 

[Akka]

The only time I have ever played is trying out this code. It seems really hard, there are 24 thousand 5 letter words in the list it picks on my machine, you only have 6 guesses. I feel I should be able to work out how many paths you could take, but I cannot be bothered. Of the top of my head it seems like there is too much randomness to give you a good chance of winning a game.

Don't think it's too hard, I only ever lost one game of it (ironically, it was the word "skill", I just painted myself in a corner and had to guess between "still", "spill" and "skill" in the last row, went for "spill" and lost), and it's not even my native language.
There is little to no randomness in winning, it's all about being strategical in your choice of words to see which letters are used and which aren't.

That being said, yeah it's trivial to code, I probably would be able to do it in a week and most of it would be the UI part. I wasn't aware someone bothered to pay millions to buy it

 

[Samson]

Don't think it's too hard, I only ever lost one game of it (ironically, it was the word "skill", I just painted myself in a corner and had to guess between "still", "spill" and "skill" in the last row, went for "spill" and lost), and it's not even my native language.
There is little to no randomness in winning, it's all about being strategical in your choice of words to see which letters are used and which aren't.

That being said, yeah it's trivial to code, I probably would be able to do it in a week and most of it would be the UI part. I wasn't aware someone bothered to pay millions to buy it

Yeah, others here have convinced me it is not hard. I think it is the word lists, I was working on a 24,000 word list, but it is only a 2,000 word list for the answers.

I think the millions was for the name, not the copyright of the code.

 

[tjs282]

I Always open with THEIR - 4 of the 6 most frequent letters.

Interesting.

Up until today (which I got in 3), I've been using anagrams of A,E,R,S,T (which I thought were the most frequently used): e.g. RATES, TEARS, ASTER

But Wiki suggests, based on letter frequency of usage, it might be better to prioritise per the list(s) "ETAON RISHD LFCMU GYPWB VKJXZQ" or "EARIO TNSLC UDPMH GBFYW KVXZJ Q"

So maybe "RATIO" would be better starter? Would at least rule 3 vowels in/out, even if not the most common one...

 

[Samson]

Interesting.

Up until today, I've been using anagrams of A,E,R,S,T (which I thought were the most frequently used): e.g. RATES, TEARS, ASTER

Wiki suggests, based on letter frequency of usage, it might be better to prioritise per the list EARIO TNSLC UDPMH GBFYW KVXZJ Q

So maybe "RATIO" would be better starter? Would at least rule 3 vowels in/out, even if not the most common one...

There was a site that did the "best starting word" mathematically, posted somewhere above. I think it came down to how good you are at using negative information. In that how much you are able to use "word does not contain 'E'" compared to "word does contain 'E'" when selecting words to guess.