Would Ron Paul make a good president?

[Truronian]

No, at least the way you define link.

You mean the way the dictionary defines link.

If the money was gained legitimately you have every right to take it. Ron Paul chose to do so. I probably would not have. That doesn't make him a racist.

So you would have no problems with, say, Paul accepting money from Hamas?

 

[useless]

Well... it is his choice...

 

[Traitorfish]

The above being said, I'd have to disagree with you though, especially that last sentence. WAY too politically correct, and nowhere near true. White privaledge does not exist, or at the very least if it does exist, black privaledge exists too. I can post examples if needed.

That's two people who have no idea what the term "white privilege" actually means. Any more, just so we can get the inevitable, desperate, frustrated explanation out of the way in one go?

First of all i'm only half white (half-persian, and while Iranians consider themselves to be white I HAVE faced discrimination before for being half Iranian).

Neatly demonstrating the inherent absurdity of an arbitrary model of biological race, as if it wasn't already pretty damn obvious.

 

[GhostWriter16]

So you would have no problems with, say, Paul accepting money from Hamas?

Well, that means Hamas has less money to use on evil stuff!

Taking money from someone isn't the same as giving it to them.

Granted, I still wouldn't do it, but that's just me.

 

[useless]

So you'd have no qualms with Ron Paul doing so?

 

[Traitorfish]

Still waiting on an explanation about that tanning salons thing. Given that it was the cornerstone of your argument- one may go so far as to suggest that it was the entirety of your argument- it could do with tidying up.

 

[GhostWriter16]

So you'd have no qualms with Ron Paul doing so?

I wouldn't personally do it, but to say it "Gives him links with terrorists" is nonsense.

Also, even still, being a white supremist is not breaking any laws, at least in America, thus making it a different issue.

And, accepting money from someone with a bad agenda actually leaves them with less money to carry out their agenda. Just sayin'.

 

[useless]

Also, how is Obama racist

 

[Cutlass]

Also, how is Obama racist

He's black. Therefor his "racism" can be assumed.

 

[Traitorfish]

He's black. Therefor his "racism" can be assumed.

That does sometimes seem to be the logic, doesn't it?

 

[Cutlass]

That does sometimes seem to be the logic, doesn't it?

The main defense racists use in the US today is to constantly accuse others of racism for the purpose of clouding the issue. If conservatives in America are successful at nothing else, they are successful at lying through their teeth to re-frame debates in ways that let them pretend to be the victims.

 

[GhostWriter16]

He's black. Therefor his "racism" can be assumed.

That does sometimes seem to be the logic, doesn't it?

The main defense racists use in the US today is to constantly accuse others of racism for the purpose of clouding the issue. If conservatives in America are successful at nothing else, they are successful at lying through their teeth to re-frame debates in ways that let them pretend to be the victims.

If I had the time to figure out how I'd post a facepalm image.

That argument isn't even close to accurate.

 

[Traitorfish]

:That argument isn't even close to accurate.

Well, go on then. Explain. We've been asking you to, after all.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Well, go on then. Explain. We've been asking you to, after all.

I don't have too.

You can't just say "The conservatives are racist because they are racist." That's why Ron Paul didn't deny being a racist. Its the same reason I won't deny it either. Its a foolish argument, and a real sensible liberal (If there is such a thing) would know conservatives have different reasons for what they do then "They are racists!" I won't reply to it. If you continue pressing it, I will deploy the action of silence.

 

[Cutlass]

Not all conservatives are racist. But even if Reagan wasn't a racist, and there are reasons to think he was not, he still used racism to get elected. That's not a debatable point to anyone who knows recent American history.

 

[Traitorfish]

I don't have too.

No, y'kinda do. If you make the sort of assertions which you have done, you're obliged to back them up, at least for etiquette's sake.

 

[LightFang]

I don't have too.

You can't just say "The conservatives are racist because they are racist." That's why Ron Paul didn't deny being a racist. Its the same reason I won't deny it either. Its a foolish argument, and a real sensible liberal (If there is such a thing) would know conservatives have different reasons for what they do then "They are racists!" I won't reply to it. If you continue pressing it, I will deploy the action of silence.

Did Glenn Beck murder and rape a girl in 1990? He hasn't said that he hasn't. I'm not saying that he has, you know, but his lack of response to the issue is a bit troubling.

 

[sophie]

I don't have too.

You can't just say "The conservatives are racist because they are racist." That's why Ron Paul didn't deny being a racist. Its the same reason I won't deny it either. Its a foolish argument, and a real sensible liberal (If there is such a thing) would know conservatives have different reasons for what they do then "They are racists!" I won't reply to it. If you continue pressing it, I will deploy the action of silence.

Sure you don't. No one is MAKING you submit evidence. Just know, that no one here is going to take any of your arguments seriously until you do.

 

[Tacitusitis]

At first it was funny/ironic when Republicans were calling Paul crazy, but now this is serious, where do Republicans and teabaggers get off calling Ron Paul racist?

 

[mangxema]

A politician who wants to end the Federal Reserve would not make a good president.

I find him to be too much of a loose cannon. Even for some of his potentially better ideas, it seems he wants to put them into effect way too quickly and without much regard for all of the possible consequences.

I also am not a fan of much of his economics, but I'd rather not just turn the thread into another debate on libertarian economic policy.

What they said. Paul confounds me in that he seems remarkably sane on some issues, and remarkably nuts on others. I believe that he has the perfect role right now in the House: he can start conversations, but can't single-handed pass his nuttier ideas.