Would you support an Atheistic Theocracy?

[Neonanocyborgasm]

Yes yes, we all get it, but I think we can easily imagine the atheistic equivalent of a theocracy. "Theocracy" wouldn't be the best word to use, but it is a good analogy. I at least am capable of imagining a state where atheism is enforced the way some religions are enforced in some theocracies.

I don't know that it's possible to enforce a lack of belief. Communist governments are officially atheist, but it is not of central importance and religious belief only becomes an issue when perceived disloyalty to the state appears as a result. The USSR was an atheist state for its whole history, yet religious institutions persisted during that time. When it collapsed, they were quick to re-emerge.

 

[El_Machinae]

A majority of people seem to be wired to believe in the supernatural. I don't think it's possible to remove that wiring.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Not just enforcing a lack of belief but actively persecuting the religious. It has been tried; even if it's not sucessful I think it makes the closest thing to an "atheistic theocracy", or "atheocracy" if you will, that we have seen.

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

A goverment should try to keep the people rational, so yes.

 

[CartesianFart]

I think United States is somewhat an athiestic theocracy in some metaphorical way.Most of our laws is by individuals that are not ordained by some sort of devine being or some kind of ideology of an organized religion(except some political pressure group that have some buyout on some Congressman or the President on some circumstantial issues),but based on human choices alone.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

No, there is a huge difference between a secular state and an atheocracy. The one merely doesn't allow religion to intrude into the government, the other actively seeks to repress it. The one just wants to affect how people behave in some circumstances, the other how people think always.

 

[GenMarshall]

A goverment should try to keep the people rational, so yes.

I know I will be leaving your country post haste or practace my religion in private away from the Atheists whom have made religion illegal .

 

[CartesianFart]

No, there is a huge difference between a secular state and an atheocracy.

I think it is metaphorically the same.The meaning of secular state can be expressed by way of transferring its signification to an improper similitude for the sake of an hyperbole,which can be unconventially refer to-Atheistic Theocracy.

The one merely doesn't allow religion to intrude into the government, the other actively seeks to repress it.

What is this one and the other?So i can understand you better.

The one just wants to affect how people behave in some circumstances, the other how people think always.

Once again,are you positing secular state or athiestic theocracy?

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

The "one" is the secular state, the "other" or second the atheocracy. Believe me, there is in fact a difference between the state not favoring a religion, and the state banning all of them.

 

[GenMarshall]

I think it is metaphorically the same.The meaning of secular state can be expressed by way of transferring its signification to an improper similitude for the sake of an hyperbole,which can be unconventially refer to-Atheistic Theocracy.

If the US is an Atheistic Theocracy or Atheocracy. Would I be able to practace my faith without being persecuted? Would I be able to express my faith? If the US was an Atheocracy, I would not be publicly express my faith as well as practace my faith in private and hope that no fascist atheist persecutes me just because I am a Roman Catholic with Shinto spiritualiy.

 

[CartesianFart]

The "one" is the secular state, the "other" or second the atheocracy.

Ok,sorry for the mistake,it was rather vague from the start,wasn't it?

The secular state merely doesn't allow religion to intrude into the government, the atheistic theocracy actively seeks to repress it.

Hmm.I find this comment overgeneralizing.There are cases of Nation-States of a secular principle repressing other religion.

The secular state just wants to affect how people behave in some circumstances, the atheistic theocracy how people think always.

I find this also overgeneralizing as well.There are cases today that secular states of a secular principle have created laws and institutions on how to make people think on everyday basis.That is nothing new on regarding the role of institutions and law,whether it be a church,school,prison or a courthouse.You have not state and failed to strike any different comparison.

Believe me, there is in fact a difference between the state not favoring a religion, and the state banning all of them.

Of course there is a difference,you have just stated it in this complete sentence you've just uttered above here.

I can state a premiss by beginning a word "fact" and demarcate "differences."

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[Gogf]

Yes yes, we all get it, but I think we can easily imagine the atheistic equivalent of a theocracy. "Theocracy" wouldn't be the best word to use, but it is a good analogy. I at least am capable of imagining a state where atheism is enforced the way some religions are enforced in some theocracies.

You mean something along the lines of a "people's republic"?

 

[CartesianFart]

If the US is an Atheistic Theocracy or Atheocracy. Would I be able to practace my faith without being persecuted?

Depends on the atheist or atheists who do the governing.

Lets say that an atheistic theocracy is a political group or elite that is govern by a secular principal,since atheist can't be governed by a diety because they don't believe in any diety.

If the US was an Atheocracy, I would not be publicly express my faith as well as practace my faith in private and hope that no fascist atheist persecutes me just because I am a Roman Catholic with Shinto spiritualiy.

Funny that you ascribe "fascist" to atheist.Can i call a Shinto and a Roman Catholic,Fascist?

Atheistic Theocracy is the belief in government by divine atheist is a contradiction.

 

[GenMarshall]

Funny that you ascribe "fascist" to atheist.

I dont ascribe fascist to atheists. Only to a select few atheists whom want to supress me and persecute me just because of my faith.

Can i call a Shinto and a Roman Catholic,Fascist?

No, you may NOT call a Shinto and a Roman Catholic fascist. Doing so is an insult, especialy towards Shintoists and Roman Catholics.

 

[Gogf]

Depends on the atheist or atheists who do the governing.

Uh, no it doesn't. By definition an atheist theocracy would prevent people from practicing any faith.

 

[CartesianFart]

Uh, no it doesn't. By definition an atheist theocracy would prevent people from practicing any faith.

1.An atheist is a person who do not believe in God,Gods,or some divine being.

2.A theocracy is a political society that is governed by a deity or some kind of a person who is divinely guided by some deity.

The OP is absurd in suggesting that an atheist or atheists can govern in a political government that only allow a individual or individuals to rule based on the merit of being divine.

 

[Tycoon101]

The OP is absurd in suggesting that an atheist or atheists can govern in a political government that only allow a individual or individuals to rule based on the merit of being divine.

What the Hell do you expect from me?

I'm probably more insane about religion than most religious are. Of course the OP is going to be illogical!

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

In a truly secular state, atheists, agnostics, Christians, followers of Dagon, and what have you, can govern together as one big happy centralized bureaucracy, and the laws they pass make no comment one way or the other toward religion. You know, like the US is supposed to be. Whereas in an atheocracy it is the atheists (the most vocal or strident ones; not all Christians in a Christian theocracy liked it either) make sure that the laws reflect their view that religion must be suppressed.

 

[Azash]

No. Ridiculous idea, and as restrictive as religious theocracies. (Although it would lack some of the bad sides of religion)

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

But it would make its own; human nature is funny like that. If we stop killing in the name of God we find new ways to kill.