Would you vote for Calexit?
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Hygro
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Honestly making a country out of Cali just sounds like a lot of fun.
Zkribbler
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We really need a new flag. Why do we have the picture of a Russian bear next to a red star? And the California Republic lasted only three days, from the time it declared its independence from Mexico until in decided to become part of the U.S.
Remember, the main purpose of a flag is to give elementary school boys something to doodle when they should be doing math. That bear is impossible to draw. Once upon a time, I drew an alternative: a robin's egg blue background with the state's motto in an arch of gold: EUREKA. Now that is a flag!
Hygro
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The Bear stays.
sophie
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We really need a new flag. Why do we have the picture of a Russian bear next to a red star? And the California Republic lasted only three days, from the time it declared its independence from Mexico until in decided to become part of the U.S.
Remember, the main purpose of a flag is to give elementary school boys something to doodle when they should be doing math. That bear is impossible to draw. Once upon a time, I drew an alternative: a robin's egg blue background with the state's motto in an arch of gold: EUREKA. Now that is a flag!
It's a challenge to draw because we Californians challenge our youth to be better.
Plus it's not a Russian Bear, it's a Californian bear!
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That isn't a Russian bear, it is Ursus Horribilus, the California Grizzly. Remove at your own risk.
CavLancer
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If its removed is a red flag and star. Fitting somehow but...
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Yeah, the oceans of poor people are so harshly treated in this evil socialist hell hole. They're all trying to get out!
Oh and that massive brain drain out of the state is a massive burden. People, business and capital are pouring out of the state to prop up bastions of American industry like Mississippi.
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Oh and that massive brain drain out of the state is a massive burden. People, business and capital are pouring out of the state to prop up bastions of American industry like Mississippi.
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CavLancer
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A star on a red background is communist Vietnam, that's what I find fitting. Now there's kids in the streets protesting democracy. If you don't believe what they believe, you are wrong! Fitting...
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If they don't believe what you believe, well back in my day we'd take em out back. Rough them up, I'll pay the hospital bills!
One of these two things is worse than the other.
LOL you just compared California to Vietnam. You do realize California by itself is the sixth richest state-sized region on the planet, right?
Oh come now. The people protesting the results of the election have engaged in much more violence than Trump supporters have. The riot in Oakland on election night after it was called for Trump alone was much more violent than the occasional fist fight that broke out at a Trump rally. So while Trump and his supporters may talk more violently than their opposition, it's the opposition to Trump that has shown the real propensity for taking violent action in order to get their way.
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Riot? I was not in Oakland that night but I was working at an old McDonnell plant a couple of miles from Ferguson when there were riots there. What the media portrayed and what actually went down in that period were two completely different things.
I'd also argue that what the President does and says himself on national television and popular media has a much larger impact on the nation than a single small riot could have.
I'd also argue that what the President does and says himself on national television and popular media has a much larger impact on the nation than a single small riot could have.
Hygro
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I was in Oakland the next night. No sign of riots. I saw a lot of police on the highways. I assumed it was in response to everyone celebrating legal weed. Heard about the small riot the following afternoon.
Except it's not just a single small riot. For the past year or so, we have seen numerous occasions of white people being assaulted by black protestors and student protestors on universities using hired "muscle" to forcibly remove anyone who expresses an opinion that disagrees with their cause. Throughout the course of this election cycle, it has been groups that are opposed to Trump that have been responsible for the majority of the politically motivated violence that has taken place. Let us not forget that it was a Republican party office in North Carolina that was firebombed just weeks before the election. Now certain people here will try to claim it was a false flag attack perpetrated by Trump's campaign, but there is absolutely no evidence to support that so we have to assume it was the opposition that did it.
I also tend to judge people on their actions rather than their words. Sure, it's pretty terrible to talk about committing violent acts against your opponents, but it's even worse to actually do it.
Don't even pull that. I watched the live coverage of the Ferguson riots before any kind of spin could be put on it. Are you really going to tell me that what I saw happening live on my TV wasn't what was really happening?
So all the debris, flipped and burned out cars, and looted stores were all fake?
In other words, you have no counterpoint so you are trying to disengage from the conversation in a way that still makes you look like the "winner".
I just cited numerous examples of groups opposed to Trump engaging in organized politically motivated violence, whereas all you can present for Trump and his supporters are some harsh words and a few fist fights.
And before you make the assumption I know you are going to make, I'm not saying Trump and his people are saints. I'm just saying I find it a little odd that you think talking about violence is worse than actually committing violent acts.
EDIT: I'll make a deal with you: I'll accept that media coverage of the Ferguson riots did not portray the situation accurately as long as you never comment on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan ever again. All you have to go on is what the media has told you about those wars, and their coverage was completely inaccurate. I know this because I was in both Iraq and Afghanistan so I have quite a bit of first hand experience in the matter and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the media was not giving the American people anything that resembles an accurate picture as to what was going on over there. That means, unless you were there, there is no possible way you could have an informed opinion about the wars there, just like you are assuming there is no way I could have an informed opinion about the Ferguson riots simply by watching the media coverage.
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