this is a thread i'm starting about games i've played where i'v been completely obliterated. feel free for anyone else to post stories of defeat and shame if you want. my first story is one of the first games i ever played. i got the original civ3 for christmas when i was in 4th grade, so i was really excited and put the game in, started it up, and played a game. i played as greece, and put it on some rediculously high level like sid or emperor... anyway i thought i would be good at it so i started playing. i didn't know that settlers made new cities or workers built roads, but instead i kept building hoplite over and over again, even until the middle ages. around 500 AD i declared war on england, thinking i could win. i had just athens as a city, they had something like 25 cities. i think i had an embassy in russia and (somehow) they agreed to be my ally against england,but i literally sent ten hoplite in, they were all slayed by the english musketmen without one single english injury, and the english moved in on athens which was unguarded, razed it and i lost...i know i was really dumb but i was too stubourn to read the manual.