You can choose one to never be born:

Another dude who owes his life to mama Hitler and papa Stalin...
Yeah... another dude... I am not sure, but extremely many people go into that category. My gut tells me that perhaps the majority of humans in existence own their existence to them (among others).
Europe and Asia, for one. Africa got its share of impact, America surely did... Now that I think about it ... Yeah, I am actually sure the majority of humans alive today own their existence to them (among others - so to pacify certain nit-pickers :mischief:.)
 
Yeah... another dude... I am not sure, but extremely many people go into that category. My gut tells me that perhaps the majority of humans in existence own their existence to them (among others).
Europe and Asia, for one. Africa got its share of impact, America surely did... Now that I think about it ... Yeah, I am actually sure the majority of humans alive today own their existence to them (among others - so to pacify certain nit-pickers :mischief:.)

You will have to explain this to me. I understand that you identify yourself with your physical exclusively -- perhaps even to an extent that "be it another from my fathers millions of sperm cells it would be someone else and I would totally never existed" but seriously what does Hitler have to do with that?
 
be it another from my fathers millions of sperm cells it would be someone else and I would totally never existed
That is the gist of it.
Anyone being born is depending on a million of contingencies.

Hitler changed a trillion of contingencies all over the world.

What else is to say?

I do not understand your lack of understanding.

edit:

The mere thought of WWII would likely cause a random male x to impregnate random female y with another sperm.

You disagree or what?

If not - I , as said, do not understand you
 
Your existence has nothing to do with Hitler then. Its really about sperm race:

Link to video.
 
Your existence has nothing to do with Hitler then. Its really about sperm race:

Link to video.
Well 'nothing' is clearly wrong, as 'everything' would be. But 'something' is clearly right.

So as a matter of fact.
A million of jews had to die, among a million other things, so that I could be born.
'A million other things' may say that the holocaust is not particular important to my existence. But it still is. Without Hitler bothering the world, no me. Without that jerk bothering my mother in 8th grade, no me.

But that all infinitively relativezes in so far as that I do not buy into the idea of an actual 'me'.
There are just 'mes'. And way to many of that so for me to be comfortable with it.
More than I can count. And a lot of them, I am right know.
Glad to make your acquaintance.
Now what was we saying?
 
At least Hitler built autobahns.

I bet if you would give Stalin extra 20 mil. people he would have build them too plus pyramids in Moscow on top of that.
 
A million of jews had to die, among a million other things, so that I could be born.
'A million other things' may say that the holocaust is not particular important to my existence. But it still is. Without Hitler bothering the world, no me. Without that jerk bothering my mother in 8th grade, no me.

Interesting beliefs. Just ask yourself "is any of that in position to influence or better determinative in the sperm race? and you have your answer." ;)
 
Maybe if the Nazis hadn't come to power Stalin would have not maintained sufficient popularity so long and the USSR would have gone on a better course :dunno:
 
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