Klaus Hergersheimer
Emperor
So what do they think about Mamdani? That'd probably prove a more valuable insight than most every post here.
Zohran Mamdani
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KMRblue1027
Deity
What are you even trying to get at here? That question was outright answered by New York 2 days ago. They overwhelmingly just voted for him they like him I genuinely do not get your point.
GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
We should all take a moment to reflect on the humor we are losing. Adams was many things, a lot of those things being “corrupt” or “incompetent” but he also was an extremely weird, funny dude. We are losing a mayor I can routinely make fun of to make myself feel better about my home city.
Klaus Hergersheimer
Emperor
well as Zardnaar I quoted said, a socialist won in a strong Democrat constituency. You know who else did that? Bill De Blasio. So sorry if I do not consider this some sea change in favor of the DSA...
Lexicus
Deity
They either like him a lot (some volunteered for his campaign) or think he isn't left enough
KMRblue1027
Deity
You're still not making a cohesive point. You asked for what the opinion of local residents would be by asking in a round about way what people have heard from local New Yokers. I don't get why that'd be any more relevant then an actual election result. And if you look at a beyond NYC perspective literally everywhere swung somewhat to majorly left. So a moderately left leaning place like NYC voting in an actual leftist isn't surprising.
Zardnaar
Deity
Rest of the swing against the GoP might.
New plan to win popular support. Let the right win. They're so bad at governance option B looks great.
UK binned them out. Starter might not survive. Aussie went the other way along with Canada.
Looks like we might have a 1 terms neo liberal government and the left is campaigning on tax rises for once.
Basically conservatives have screwed the pooch in all the anglosphere countries recently.
GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
Yeah but that happened with Bush (approval in the 20s at his term end) and Americans all forgot that in like 2 years.
Zardnaar
Deity
Up to a point. Bit different now.
I live in the other side of the planet and believe at last check that I have
It's the main American city, one of the primary cities of the world, one of the largest metropolitan areas on the planet including the second largest city in the rich world. It's the cultural, economic, and social centre of the largest rich country that happens to, fit the moment, still comprise a quarter of the global economy. Kind of important and well known lol.
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Mamdani Proves That Americans Want What We in Europe Already Have
Unlike many Americans, Europeans recognize his vision about free public transit and universal childcare. We expect our governments to make these kinds of services accessible to all of us. We pay higher taxes and get civilized societies in return. The debate here isn’t whether to have these programs, but how to improve them.
Der Spiegel called Mamdani “the anti-Trump.” Le Monde described his platform as “audaciously European.” The Volkskrant ran the headline “New York Kiest Voor Hoop” - New York Chooses Hope. But what strikes me most is a short discussion I overheard this morning in a café in Oslo: “Finally, an American politician who sounds normal.”
Normal. That’s the word. Here, taking care of one another through public programs isn’t radical socialism. It’s Tuesday.
The Democratic establishment spent months trying to stop Mamdani, warning he was too progressive, too young, too different. They wanted a safe, moderate, and electable candidate. Sound familiar? It’s the same playbook that’s been losing ground to right-wing populism across the Western world. Play defense, aim for the center, don’t scare anyone.
Mamdani did the opposite. He appeared on Joe Rogan and discussed rent control. He challenged Wall Street directly. He promised things that Europeans take for granted, but Americans are told are impossible. And he won by the largest margin in decades.
Trump represents a return to a past that Europe barely survived. We lost tens of millions of people learning that lesson. We rebuilt our societies with a simple principle: we take care of each other. Public healthcare. Free or very affordable education. Subsidized childcare. Livable pensions. Not because we’re socialist paradises, but because we remember what happens when societies fall apart.
What Mamdani represents isn’t some radical departure from democratic norms. It’s a return to the idea that government exists to improve people’s lives. That’s not socialism. That’s democracy working as intended.
Unlike many Americans, Europeans recognize his vision about free public transit and universal childcare. We expect our governments to make these kinds of services accessible to all of us. We pay higher taxes and get civilized societies in return. The debate here isn’t whether to have these programs, but how to improve them.
Der Spiegel called Mamdani “the anti-Trump.” Le Monde described his platform as “audaciously European.” The Volkskrant ran the headline “New York Kiest Voor Hoop” - New York Chooses Hope. But what strikes me most is a short discussion I overheard this morning in a café in Oslo: “Finally, an American politician who sounds normal.”
Normal. That’s the word. Here, taking care of one another through public programs isn’t radical socialism. It’s Tuesday.
The Democratic establishment spent months trying to stop Mamdani, warning he was too progressive, too young, too different. They wanted a safe, moderate, and electable candidate. Sound familiar? It’s the same playbook that’s been losing ground to right-wing populism across the Western world. Play defense, aim for the center, don’t scare anyone.
Mamdani did the opposite. He appeared on Joe Rogan and discussed rent control. He challenged Wall Street directly. He promised things that Europeans take for granted, but Americans are told are impossible. And he won by the largest margin in decades.
Trump represents a return to a past that Europe barely survived. We lost tens of millions of people learning that lesson. We rebuilt our societies with a simple principle: we take care of each other. Public healthcare. Free or very affordable education. Subsidized childcare. Livable pensions. Not because we’re socialist paradises, but because we remember what happens when societies fall apart.
What Mamdani represents isn’t some radical departure from democratic norms. It’s a return to the idea that government exists to improve people’s lives. That’s not socialism. That’s democracy working as intended.
Klaus Hergersheimer
Emperor
"It's not socialism; it's normal!"
sure.
Well Mamdani calls himself a socialist so I'll just have to kind-of take his word for it and not this smug s.o.b.
sure.
Well Mamdani calls himself a socialist so I'll just have to kind-of take his word for it and not this smug s.o.b.
Klaus Hergersheimer
Emperor
non Americans need to study economics.
amadeus
rad thibodeaux-xs
This is the most egregious part of all the made-up stuff from the smell-our-own-farts club: a margin of 9-10% is smaller than every NYC mayoral race since Bloomberg. Before then too there were blowouts—Ed Koch won 78% in 1985.
GenMarshall
Sin'dorei ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
I have my hang ups with socialism (mostly with tankies), from what tidbits I’ve seen in passing, he did not browbeat other people like the stereotypical “woke blue haired SJW with a septum piercing” on Twitter/X. From what I gather is he spoke to to other people whom he understood their pain and struggles.
If he did not put emphasis on his identity as a Democratic Socialist, I would have honestly precieved him as a Social Democrat and placed him on a similar level as Bernie Sanders.
To give credit where credit is due. At least Mamdani did not abandoned the democratic process and electoralism like most tankies do (and MAGA on the far right).
