11 cops vs. teen with a knife. You know where this is going.

[Rashiminos]

As usual you're incomprehensible.

You make a remark about video evidence falling on blind eyes due to ideology. I make a remark about ethical implorations falling on deaf ears because some animals/rapists have other instincts/motives.

Are you still missing that comparison?

 

[aelf]

I have no idea what you're trying to say. And I think it would save me time not to try figuring it out.

 

[Borachio]

Or even pointing out that you would save said time?

As for me, I've wasted the whole day already. I'm outta here.

 

[Rashiminos]

I have no idea what you're trying to say. And I think it would save me time not to try figuring it out.

Okay. Let's try this again. This time using aelf (because having it be impersonal seems impossible for him).

A rapist may have no idea what you mean by "Don't rape." or "It's wrong to rape someone." kind of like you here and this particular point. Or maybe the rapist does know what you mean, but doesn't care just like you here with your own concerns about "saving time."

Any more thickness is just going to lead me to talk to others and tell them to avoid your posts, simply because you might actually be incapable or unwilling to receive this message and probably a number of other messages as well.

(In other words addressing the victim and not the perpetrator because the perp is simply not receptive.)

 

[aelf]

Maybe it would help if your English skills aren't simply so bad (if it isn't a more general problem with putting your thoughts into words). As it is, I can't help you.

 

[Rashiminos]

Maybe it would help if your English skills aren't simply so bad (if it isn't a more general problem with putting your thoughts into words). As it is, I can't help you.

It isn't my English skills that are the problem, aelf. Either your neuron will fire in response to the analogy presented or it won't.

Finding my statements incomprehensible and (presumably) asking for clarification indicates that you are the one seeking help from me. Not the reverse. Do not make the mistake of thinking I am seeking your help here.

Spoiler :

There are times when I am lazily obtuse or deliberately obtuse. The former is self-explanatory. The latter is a requirement for the other person to inject their own thoughts into the gaps for myriad reasons. This (latest) analogy is neither of those circumstances.

 

[Borachio]

Haha. Nice little exchange between the two of you, here.

 

[aelf]

I dunno. I have no problem understanding most people I converse with here (and I don't pretend not to). So either there's something wrong with me and them or there's something wrong with you. Pick the more plausible option.

And you seem to want to be understood by me. That's where I am unable to help you; and I'm not being deliberately obtuse (in the other sense of the word) either, as I pointed out above. However, if you don't actually want to be understood by me, then you should be fine with my telling you that I don't understand what you're trying to say, which is most of the time.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

It looks like one of the police officers handled the situation quite poorly. I'm sure it will be investigated and dealt with appropriately.

 

[Formaldehyde]

It looks like one of the police officers handled the situation quite poorly. I'm sure it will be investigated and dealt with appropriately.

At least one of those two sentences is likely correct.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

At least one of those two sentences is likely correct.

You're agreeing on 50-100% to a post of mine?


Can't you make it a little bit interesting by telling me what would be an appropriate action against this police officer? Just so I know beforehand where I might be mistaken.

 

[Kyriakos]

What is even more ludicrous (or horrible) is that the police shot the person in the bus a few times, then waited for some seconds, then shot him even more times than before, and then still were not keen on trying to enter the bus.

Maybe they were waiting for the supporting Tank to arrive first.

 

[civ_king]

What is even more ludicrous (or horrible) is that the police shot the person in the bus a few times, then waited for some seconds, then shot him even more times than before, and then still were not keen on trying to enter the bus.

Maybe they were waiting for the supporting Tank to arrive first.

They were obviously waiting for the heavy support AKA George Zimmerman to arrive.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Can't you make it a little bit interesting by telling me what would be an appropriate action against this police officer? Just so I know beforehand where I might be mistaken.

Why don't you try to make it a "little bit interesting" by showing that being suspended with pay until his superiors likely claim it was justified by official police policy a few days from now is an example of "dealt with appropriately"?

 

[Kyriakos]

They were obviously waiting for the heavy support AKA George Zimmerman to arrive.

So that he could save yet another trapped youth this month

 

[Goodfella]

Haha. Nice little exchange between the two of you, here.

It's hilarious, I can't stop laughing!

 

[Loppan Torkel]

Why don't you try to make it a "little bit interesting" by showing that being suspended with pay until his superiors likely claim it was justified by official police policy a few days from now is an example of "dealt with appropriately"?

Suspended with pay until the investigation is over seems appropriate. I have too little info to make a good judgement about the event, but I expect punishment in some form. What kind of punishment depends on the ruling, which I trust will be fair. If not punishment, I expect a good explanation about the situation and the reaction to it.

How's that? I've played along, now you tell me what you think is appropriate.

 

[Formaldehyde]

You don't seem to know anything at all about police brutality in the US and apparently even Canada. There will likely be no "punishment in some form", and the "ruling" is typically anything but "fair".

What I think would be "fair" in this particular case is some form of felony homicide charge against the officer who shot him 9 times, and an assault charge against the officer who subsequently used a taser on him before he had the opportunity to die.

 

[Borachio]

Wouldn't all the officers who just stood by while the one officer shot him 9 times also be culpable?

(But it's very unlikely that anyone will be prosecuted for this. Though I expect there'll be some kind of inquiry since the video appears on public media. Maybe even a review of standard procedures. A closing of ranks, and defence of their own, by the police seems very likely.)

 

[Rashiminos]

I dunno.

I have no problem understanding most people I converse with here (and I don't pretend not to). So either there's something wrong with me and them or there's something wrong with you. Pick the more plausible option.

They don't have much of problem understanding me either. Some of them may not like or accept what I have to say, but that's a different matter. There isn't the commonality of "your posts are incomprehensible" that makes your option more plausible.

And you seem to want to be understood by me.

More like "not be misunderstood."

That's where I am unable to help you; and I'm not being deliberately obtuse (in the other sense of the word) either, as I pointed out above.

You may be right about that disability. I never accused you of being obtuse at any rate, let alone deliberately.

However, if you don't actually want to be understood by me, then you should be fine with my telling you that I don't understand what you're trying to say, which is most of the time.

I guess you're right. If you're incapable of understanding me, better not continue wasting my time wanting you to not misunderstand. Hope that's okay with you.