Fippy
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Worth a new thread imo, here are quotes on this topic so far.
I go for two workers before first settler sometimes too, or not that seldom really. 10% of games perhaps...?
Some theory....
Settler is 100 hammer/food to start yielding at best 3F2H3C (settling on a PH, insta-connected working a floodplain.)
Then it's 8% interest on that investment.
If we settle in a location that is not connected, not on a PH and working say a grassland forest we get 2F2H1C, then it's 5% yield on our 100H investment.
A worker that has infinite forest to chop is yielding 5H/turn chopping non-stop, and cost 60H.
Thats 8.3% yield.
Ofcourse, if we discount commerce (which I think one should in these early game examples) the chopping worker wins out more.
Another thing about the worker is that it's cheaper, so the first hammers you start to put into the build is lying dormant for a shorter duration of time before it comes alive and starts yielding.
Worker stuffSpoiler :
Well my 2nd worker feedback wasn't related to anything
But it's an interesting topic, and imo sometimes the best play.
Would be my first thought here too (without knowing details while playing..).
China can go BW first, and there will be plenty work. Can see some decent city spots, but nothing that screams settler first,
i had some good experiences with 2 workers. Usually i micro that thou, like starting him until first food was improved.
I'm very eager to learn if two workers really can be competitive. Krikav's points are noted, worker chopping an infinite forest generates 5pt, but the thing is that there is no infinite forest. A connected 2nd city generates +1 if it's close enough, make it +2 when working a tile with +1. (Source: Mao NC). I still don't know if the river connects 2nd city here, as the person who started this thread never replies to me. Anyway, assuming the river doesn't connect, 2nd city on say ph to the SE working a crappy 21 will generate 23pt (i.e. slightly better than chopping an infinite forest). With the sheep improved, that's 431pt, beating infinite chopping by a big margin. Loses 1 before connection I think (on this level, on deity would lose 2), but connecting takes only 2 worker turns when wheel is available.
So I think the only way worker-worker is competitive is when it allows you to found a 2nd city that is of much higher quality than say ph city center, plains sheep on this map. Not sure if there are such sites visible here.
Let me know if I'm missing something.