21st Century - my first scenario

[Auvin]

Im designing a scenario about the situation of world as it is today. Many this kind of scenarios are not (in my opinion) very good one's: lot's of geopolitical mistakes or just not enough knowledge about world political situtation. Also cities are on wrong places which is annoying. I want to make more realistic Civ 3 scenario about world in 21st century.

Basic information about my scenario:

Alliances:

Civ | Leader | Government

1. North-Atlantic Treaty Organization

- United States of America | President George W. Bush | Federal Republic
- European Union | Chairman Jose Manuel Durao Barroso | Federal Repulic
- Israel | Prime Minister Ehud Olmert | Parliamentary Republic
- Canada | Prime Minister Stephen Harper | Federal Republic
- Australia | Prime Minister John Howard | Federal Republic
- Turkey | Prime Minister Recep Tayiip Erdogan | Parliamentary Republic
- Pakistan | President Pervez Musharraf | Federal Republic
- South-Korea | President Roh Moo-hyun | Parliamentary Republic
- Taiwan | President Chen Shui-bian | Parliamentary Republic
- Norway | King Harald V | Constitutional Monarchy

2. Eurasian Security Pact

- Russian Federation | Vladimir Putin | Federal Republic
- Belarus | President Aljaksandr Lukashenko | Authoritarian Police State
- Central-Asian Union | President Nursultan Nazarbayev | Federal Republic

3. Shanghai Cooperation Organization

- People's Republic of China | President Hu Jintao | Market Socialism
- North-Korea | General Secretary Kim Jong Il | Juche State
- Vietnam | President Tran Duc Luong | Market Socialism
- Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas | President Hugo Chavez | Market Socialism

4. Middle-Eastern Coalition

- United Arab Federation | Colonel Gadhafi | Federal Republic
- Iran | President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad | Religious Fundamentalism

5. Neutral Nations (not even an alliance, just a group of neutral nations and unions)

- India | Prime Minister Manmonah Singh | Parliamentary Republic
- Latin-American Union | Secretary General Didier Opertti | Federal Republic
- African Union | Chairman Denis Sassou-Nguesso | Federal Republic
- South-East Asian Union | Secretary General Ong Keng Yong | Federal Republic
- Arab League | King Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz al Saud | Federal Republic

Ideas and criticism are welcome! Opinions?

I will maybe post screenshots tomorrow...

 

[Lord Malbeth]

I like it. And finally, somebody made the USA a FEDERAL REPUBLIC, that is what we are after all. Good job. I support you all the way.

 

[Stormrage]

Actually, you are a despotism

Where is Japan? Mechs!

 

[BadKharma]

Also cities are on wrong places which is annoying. I want to make more realistic Civ 3 scenario about world in 21st century.

Sometimes city location has to be adjusted so that there is room between cities to help prevent AI razing and to allow for city growth.
Sounds like a good idea though. I take it you are planning to use a world map for this. What size are you planning to use?

 

[Auvin]

Im not making graphics for new governments, since Im not very good at it. In fact, i have never tried to edit any graphics in Civ 3.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68108

The thread above has some graphics I really could use, but Im not sure how to make them work for my scenario. And there aren't graphics for N-Korean Juche government.

Sometimes city location has to be adjusted so that there is room between cities to help prevent AI razing and to allow for city growth.
Sounds like a good idea though. I take it you are planning to use a world map for this. What size are you planning to use?

Im using world map (of course) and size is 140 x 140.

 

[Auvin]

Actually, you are a despotism

Where is Japan? Mechs!

Japan is part of South-East Asian Union.

Yes... Middle-Eastern Coalition is a reference to a great FPS game BF2.

 

[bigdog5994]

man thank you i totally agree with you on the modren era mods thers always bias toward something

 

[LMR]

And there aren't graphics for N-Korean Juche government.

How's this?

 

[Plotinus]

I have to say, it does seem a bit odd to me that South Korea is a civ in its own right and Japan isn't - and also that Norway is a civ and Britain isn't (perhaps I'm biased here!). Yes, I know Britain is in the EU and Norway isn't, so technically this makes more sense, but I think Britain is more of a player on the world stage in its own right (as opposed to simply as part of the EU) than Norway is. The close alliance between the UK and the US is obviously an important factor in geopolitics at this precise moment.

I'd also be tempted to make Indonesia a civ in its own right and ally it to the Middle-Eastern Coalition (perhaps rename this).

Having the whole of Africa as a single civ is a bit disastrous too, but I suppose there's not much one can do about this under the circumstances.

Otherwise, it all looks good!

 

[Auvin]

I have to say, it does seem a bit odd to me that South Korea is a civ in its own right and Japan isn't - and also that Norway is a civ and Britain isn't (perhaps I'm biased here!). Yes, I know Britain is in the EU and Norway isn't, so technically this makes more sense, but I think Britain is more of a player on the world stage in its own right (as opposed to simply as part of the EU) than Norway is. The close alliance between the UK and the US is obviously an important factor in geopolitics at this precise moment.

I know how good relations do US. and British government have today. I could change European Union a neutral civ and add Norway or Turkey to EU. And of course then I add Great Britain as an ally to NATO.

I'd also be tempted to make Indonesia a civ in its own right and ally it to the Middle-Eastern Coalition (perhaps rename this).

Indonesia is islamic? Do arab nationalities live in Indonesia? I can rename it... that is not a problem but adding Indonesia is bit absurd. I was thinking that my MEC would be based on arab nationalism and unity in Middle-East. MEC would have also been separated from the Arab League.

Having the whole of Africa as a single civ is a bit disastrous too, but I suppose there's not much one can do about this under the circumstances.

Making each African state as an own civ would be impossible since there are over 20 states in Africa (civ limit is 31). African Union does really exist and it consists of all African nations. Much more easier and faster.

 

[Red Door]

Indonesia is islamic? Do arab nationalities live in Indonesia? I can rename it... that is not a problem but adding Indonesia is bit absurd. I was thinking that my MEC would be based on arab nationalism and unity in Middle-East. MEC would have also been separated from the Arab League.



Making each African state as an own civ would be impossible since there are over 20 states in Africa (civ limit is 31). African Union does really exist and it consists of all African nations. Much more easier and faster.

Indonesia has the most Muslims of anywhere in the World.

And technically, there are 57 African countries, but I would suggest putting North Afrcia with the Arab League/MEC, make a Central Africa civ, and a South Africa civ.

 

[Plotinus]

Yes, Indonesia is one of the most important Muslim countries in the world, in addition to being one of the most populous countries in the world. You don't have to be Arab to be Muslim, you know. Malaysia is also Muslim, but they are marginally more relaxed about it there (although it is still illegal to convert from Islam to any other religion).

It's also worth mentioning that, like other Muslim countries, Indonesia has its lunatic fringe. At the moment, the papers are reporting that many of them are trying to fly to the Middle East to help with the "jihad". Obviously these are a minority and definitely not encouraged by the government, but still, all Muslim countries, no matter where they are in the world, tend to support the Arab nations (rather than Israel) at least verbally.

 

[7ronin]

You can have a total of 31 civilizations, so you still have some room to add some more. I would suggest Japan, Great Britain, and Brazil for starters.

Obviously you have to combine many smaller countries into larger ones. Keep in mind that who you select as the leader will influence the way that people perceive and play the game. Having Muamar Khadaffi as the leader of the United Arab Federation will bring about a different reaction than say if Hosni Mubarak was the leader.

 

[LMR]

Indonesia has its lunatic fringe.

Quite correct. Did the rest of the world hear about the Bali bombings a few years ago?

Did you want that Nth Korea icon, Auvin?

 

[Auvin]

I have currently placed all cities to the map. Shedule has changed, I have to read for my exams next week. Also I do not know much about armies of world and places of diffrent brigades (and units). Same goes for buildings... So I have placed cities, but not buildings and armies... I might need help with those two things. And im not sure either what techs would I give to each civs. I will upload the map (with all cities) here later.

Did you want that Nth Korea icon, Auvin?

That icon was good.But I already told you... im not sure how to edit all the graphics, so I am not editing any of the graphics.

 

[LMR]

Oh, ok. I thought you meant that you couldnt make your own graphics...

Oh well

 

[Auvin]

I have been away from this forum and now im back.

Some updates:

- Units:

- Im going to make a new unit (unit grapchic is the Guerilla from the Conquests): Rebel, which has a hidden nationality. Civs can use them to fight against their enemies secretly "supporting" some separatist rebels or insurgents. For example, there will be some Bolivarian alliance's FARC rebels near Bogota, Islamic Chechen rebels near Grozny and Islamic Palestinian PLO insurgents near Jerusalem.

- Alliances:

Great Britain added to US allies (alliance 1). European Union is now a neutral civ. I might add Japan and Indonesia as civs, but im not sure yet.

Civ | Leader | Government

1. North-Atlantic Treaty Organization

- United States of America | President George W. Bush | Federal Republic
- Israel | Prime Minister Ehud Olmert | Parliamentary Republic
- Canada | Prime Minister Stephen Harper | Federal Republic
- Australia | Prime Minister John Howard | Federal Republic
- Turkey | Prime Minister Recep Tayiip Erdogan | Parliamentary Republic
- Pakistan | President Pervez Musharraf | Federal Republic
- South-Korea | President Roh Moo-hyun | Parliamentary Republic
- Taiwan | President Chen Shui-bian | Parliamentary Republic
- Norway | King Harald V | Constitutional Monarchy
- Great Britain | Prime Minister Tony Blair | Constitutional Monarchy

2. Eurasian Collective Security Treaty

- Russian Federation | President Vladimir Putin | Federal Republic
- Belarus | President Aljaksandr Lukashenko | Authoritarian Police State
- Central-Asian Union | President Nursultan Nazarbayev | Federal Republic

3. Shanghai Cooperation Organization

- People's Republic of China | President Hu Jintao | Market Socialism
- North-Korea | General Secretary Kim Jong Il | Juche State
- Vietnam | President Tran Duc Luong | Market Socialism
- Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas | President Hugo Chavez | Market Socialism

4. Middle-Eastern Coalition

- United Arab Federation | President Hosni Mubarak | Federal Republic
- Iran | President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad | Islamic State

5. Neutral Nations (not even an alliance, just a group of neutral nations and unions)

- India | Prime Minister Manmonah Singh | Parliamentary Republic
- European Union | Chairman Jose Manuel Durao Barroso | Federal Repulic
- Latin-American Union | Secretary General Didier Opertti | Federal Republic
- African Union | Chairman Denis Sassou-Nguesso | Federal Republic
- South-East Asian Union | Secretary General Ong Keng Yong | Federal Republic
- Arab League | King Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz al Saud | Federal Republic

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Some screenshots from my scenario (under construction). What do you think of it? Comments?:

* Africa: http://img136.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25135_Africa_21st_122_390lo.jpg

* Australia: http://img25.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25143_Australia_21st_122_535lo.jpg

* Central Asia: http://img40.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc484&image=25148_Central_Asia_21st_122_484lo.jpg

* Eastern Europe: http://img160.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25153_Eastern_Europe_21st_122_554lo.jpg

* Far East: http://img126.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25157_Far_East_21st_122_394lo.jpg

* Middle-East: http://img162.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25599_Middle_East_21st_122_481lo.jpg

* North-America: http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25604_North_America_21st_122_478lo.jpg

* South-America: http://img22.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=25609_South_America_21st_122_391lo.jpg

* South-East Asia: http://img136.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25614_South_East_Asia_122_478lo.jpg

* Western Europe: http://img129.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=25619_Western_Europe_21st_122_490lo.jpg

 

[Plotinus]

I'm not convinced by a "Southeast Asian Union" - Singapore may be next to Indonesia, but having them as part of the same civ is like having Israel and Syria as the same civ. It would be better to make Singapore and Taiwan one civ, since Singapore is far more like Taiwan in every important way than it is like Malaysia or Indonesia.

Similarly, what happened to New Zealand? Combine with Australia, I'd say. Australia's capital is Canberra.

Also, if Britain and Norway both have the same form of government, isn't it a bit inconsistent to have the leader of one country be the prime minister and the leader of the other to be the monarch?

Otherwise, I like the way it looks!

 

[Virote_Considon]

I'd be careful with giving the Rebel "Hidden Nationality"- if not done right, the AI will build that unit- and JUST that unit. (Meaning no Workers, no Defenses, no Tanks, no Wonders, nothing).

If I were you, I'd have it spawned via an improvement or Small Wonder.

 

[NavyDawg]

Sounds interesting. Are North Korea and Vietnam in the SCO? I thought it was more of a partnership between the PRC and Central Asian nations (the "Stans").