A Brave New World Part 2

To: New England
From: UCC

They're just as bad as us. They've made bigger offenses into our territory, but we're the warmongers.

Explain your logic.
 
OOC: My opinion is that their logic is: Communism = Bad, therefore Anti-Communism = Good, Helping Communism = Bad.
OOC: Well my opinion is YOU SUCK
 
From: The Republic of China
To: Our Allies

We thank you for your continued support.

From: The Republic of China
To: UCC

We are just as bad as you?! The UCC is responsible for the deaths of millions of Chinese by continuing this conflict. I think anyone would be hard pressed to find someone as "bad" as you. And as for offenses into "your territory", this is impossible because the UCC does have sovereign territory; it only occupies land rightfully part of the Republic of China.

OOC: On another note, if you total our civilian casualties with our military casualties it is probably about 23 million (this excludes the other countries, only Chinese states), which puts us slightly less than OOTL China, which had about 30 million casualties from the period of 1911-1949. It should be noted though that our war has only been going on for 25 years, while the real life period of intense conflict in China was 38 years..
 
To World
From New England

We will no longer allow warmongers to fund and fuel the bloodbath in China after the release and acceptance by the Chinese people of their new Constitution. In order to facilitate peace and prosperity in China, we will not allow armed westbound ships through the waters in and around the Philippine Islands, nor within 20 nautical miles of any New England coastline in Asia. This declaration will be backed by force.

To: The world
From: The UCNA

Hardly acceptance of the Constitution. Many thousands died due to their resistance of the Constitution. Hardly a democratic or free nation.
 
What's the male-female ratio in China now?

Assuming an equal proportion of civilian casualties, and assuming China's population was about 400 million c. 1900 like OTL, and assuming lack of population growth, then the war casualties has amounted to 3.5% of the total Chinese population, and a 7% decrease in the total male popualtion. Assuming an original 50/50 split of 200 M males to 200 M females, then today it rests 186 to 200, which is only 48:52. (this ratio holds true for any equal distribution of civilian casualties).
 
Assuming an equal proportion of civilian casualties, and assuming China's population was about 400 million c. 1900 like OTL, and assuming lack of population growth, then the war casualties has amounted to 3.5% of the total Chinese population, and a 7% decrease in the total male popualtion. Assuming an original 50/50 split of 200 M males to 200 M females, then today it rests 186 to 200, which is only 48:52. (this ratio holds true for any equal distribution of civilian casualties).

...wow:crazyeye:. So now's a good time to get a girl.
 
As requested by warman, I provide below estimates of the Suez War, that brutal conflict in the Middle East which lasted from 1908 until 1917. This war is a bit different in one major respect. Civilian casualties would be far lower as the lines have remained more static and all nations involved were purposely attempting to preserve the population and resource levels. The only exception would be the city of Baghdad which was heavily fought over between Germany, the Ottomans, Virginia, the Netherlands, and Persia.

Estimated Casualties By Year:

1908: 872,500
1909: 856,400
1910: 1,094,000
1911: 486,500
1912: 956,500
1913: 440,500
1914: 580,000
1915: 565,500
1916: 719,200

Total Casualties: 6,553,200
Bloodiest Year: 1910
Quietest Year: 1913

Casualties By Country:

Ottoman Empire: 3,095,400
German Empire: 729,100
Netherlands: 712,600
Egypt: 707,600
Virginia: 537,500
Persia: 414,500
Greece: 206,500
Danish Empire: 86,000
Arabia: 64,000
 
From: The Republic of China
To: UCC

Blah blah blah blah we are just as bad as you? blah blah blah deaths of millions of Chinese (I think they said something about them being the cause) blah blah blah the UCC does have sovereign territory blah blah occupies land blah blah blah UCC.

Speak the truth next time, will ya?
 
OOC: Does a Brigade represent about 5,000 men in this NES?

OOC: Reckon 3-4 brigades to a division and 12,000 men to a division, then you've got 3-4,000 men but I bet it's rounded to 5,000 for simplicity's sake.
 
Actually it was rounded for 3000 for simplicity.
 
"Alright, boys, load your six-shooters. We've got an appointment to keep."

A black Model 67 shot down a main road in France, just another ordinary day. Dreary light shone upon the city and the traffic as the car wove its way through smaller, more common cars on the way to its destination.

"Now listen- ah, driver, a right here, best to keep 'em guessing."

The vehicle swerved and made a sudden turn, veering for a second on the left side of the road before resuming course, attracting many angry shouts from passersby and other drivers. On their left, the Tour de France stood tall and proud and before it a mighty lake. The vehicle kept its way.

"Now, listen. When we dismount, you two - Lyons, Frederick - knock out the guards. Me and Johannson will hit the door and we expect backup asap- you know the drill for that hallway."

The car took a left turn so it now drove bestrode the lake. Its speed undiminished the Tour increased in size until its full breadth could no longer be beheld.

"You got it? You're loaded? We only get one shot at this, you know. No more drills. This is the real deal."

"Mr. Barret," began one of them, who promptly stopped talking - for no apparent reason, as Barret continued to look out at the Tour. A look of disgust crept along his face.

"I came to this country," he began quietly, "Because they said any man could make a living here. Now I know I may have been better off staying in Switzerland."

"You can still make a living," muttered Lyons.

"Not my kind of living."

The car turned right and was now heading broad way towards the capitol building. Men in dark-blue uniforms stood on some corners, and the car zipped past as usual. Perhaps a few of the men noticed something was amiss. But the shouting didn't begin until the car made a sudden ninety degree turn and smashed the curb before the capitol, each door bursting open and four men with six-shots bounding out.

Two bangs inaugurated the cacophany. "They're down, Barret!" shouted Lyons.

"Great, do you want a medal? Get to the god-damn door!"

With two swift kicks the wooden double doors gave way to a single hallway, with some doors on either side and two guards at the far end. No sooner had the doors burst open than the guards had their rifles out and aimed.

Barret and Johannson hit the deck. Overhead bullets cracked, and Lyons and Frederick dodged around the side of the door.

"Can't stay out here for long, Barret, not with security tightening up on the street," growled Frederick.

"Working on it, working on it. Johannson, you got a clear shot?"

"Aye cap'n, thar in my sights."

Two shots in short succession saw the guards crumple up and fall.

"Damnit Johannson you're one crazy sum. .. .. .. .. .," said Frederick.

"Can the sweet talk ladies, let's move," Barret bounded up onto two legs with Johannson right behind, Lyons and Frederick taking up the rear. From the street some shots could be heard.

"Close that door!"

"Ain't no time to make a barricade," answered Frederick.

"Make time, they've probably blocked off this next one," snarled Barret, running up to the far door. "Yup. Barricaded. You got the explosives?"

"Explosives?" Lyons gave a blank stare.

"Damnit Lyons, just go help block the door," Barret waved him off. He rolled his eyes and spared a glance to Johannson, "Kids."

"Aye, cap'n. How ya plannin' on breakin' troo?"

Barret took a small caplet from his coat, cracked it open and began spreading a black powder on the hinges of the door. "Gunpowder. Don't leave home without it."

The explosion was greeted by more shouts upstairs, glancing up the steps Barret could see another door and a window above that door which graciously flooded the flight with light. "Alright, get the hell up here, we gotta move, there's not much time."

In short order the team began scaling the steps, Barret taking the careful precaution of listening at the door. "This is it, the secretary's office, liable to be crowded." He took a small, black, spherical object from his belt. "Let's greet them with a bang."

He opened the door a crack, struck a switch on the grenade, and tossed it in. A quick explosion and a few cries of anguish served as an impetus to push open the door. Bang, bang, bang. One by one the confused and choking stragglers were brought down and the team cleared the room in speed.

"I think we're close to being followed," said Lyons, "They're testing those barricades we made and- yep, they're out."

Barret kicked the final door open, and arm outstretched, had his gun on point. Sitting there, all alone, was Leader Petain.

"What is the meaning of this?"

"The last cry of a dying class of workers," said Barret and summarily shot the aging ruler. A deadly silence fell over the building.

"The deed is done, mate," whispered Johannson.

"And our goose is cooked," said Frederick remorsefully, "That's that."

"Yours maybe," came a cold voice from behind them, "But not France's."

Another shot pierced the air, and Barret hit the ground amidst a puddle of his own blood. Johannson and Frederick whirled around to encounter Lyons pointing a gun at them. "Drop your guns." Thud. Thud.

"Look at that, a former industrialist and the leader dead with not a lot of questions answered," said Lyons, "Oh, woe is France."

"The hell are you talking about?" said Frederick in a low voice, "That industrialist killed the leader."

"Oh, no he didn't. He's a national hero, why would a hero do that? I'm afraid they were both victims of a couple of anarchists."

Johannson's eyes narrowed as Frederick's widened.

"Barret thought he'd be a martyr, you know. Now he'll never have that honor. He was a victim and not a perpetrator, and now he'll be a hero for the wrong cause. I'm sure he'd treasure the honor to his memory." A twisted smile adorned Lyons' face as each heresy crossed his lips.

"Damnit," said Frederick, as his countenance dropped, "Then why'd you even let him bother kill the Leader?"

"Orders from Baudouin... I answer to him, not some aging old coot. I don't know who the next leader will be, I don't care, but I'll be living in a nice house either way. You? Well, wherever you'll be you have public scorn to enjoy."

Frederick's face tightened as the magnitude of the situation began to press upon him. His eyes fell upon Lyons' gun.

"I wouldn't recommend wasting your final cogitations wondering if I have enough shots for you," said Lyons coolly, "There are definitely two bullets."

"Aye, but you still have a shortage of stones," rumbled Johannson, who with a swift upwards kick disarmed the young intelligence agent. Frederick immediately bent down and grabbed his gun, pointing it directly at Lyons.

"You were saying?" said Fredericks, and fired.

The final barricade now began hammering, as possibly every agent in the city tried their hand at undoing it. Fredericks and Johannson looked at each other with the situation growing more dire by the second.

"Thar's a window," said Johannson.

"That there is," responded Fredericks.

"Nobody knows we did it. Only that traitor Lyons knew about us."

"We can destroy the evidence at HQ."

"And then?"

"Anything."

The repair bill for the window was 4,000 francs.
 
As requested by warman, I provide below estimates of the Suez War, that brutal conflict in the Middle East which lasted from 1908 until 1917. This war is a bit different in one major respect. Civilian casualties would be far lower as the lines have remained more static and all nations involved were purposely attempting to preserve the population and resource levels. The only exception would be the city of Baghdad which was heavily fought over between Germany, the Ottomans, Virginia, the Netherlands, and Persia.

Estimated Casualties By Year:

1908: 872,500
1909: 856,400
1910: 1,094,000
1911: 486,500
1912: 956,500
1913: 440,500
1914: 580,000
1915: 565,500
1916: 719,200

Total Casualties: 6,553,200
Bloodiest Year: 1910
Quietest Year: 1913

Casualties By Country:

Ottoman Empire: 3,095,400
German Empire: 729,100
Netherlands: 712,600
Egypt: 707,600
Virginia: 537,500
Persia: 414,500
Greece: 206,500
Danish Empire: 86,000
Arabia: 64,000

Dang. Using 20 Million as my population benchmark (about Ottoman population OTL world war one), and 50/50 split, also barring population growth, my population decreased 15%, male population 30%, and my sex ratio became 41:59.
 
to Crezth

You are not a very nice man. With your racist veiws about communism and long winded speeches about how were are so bad. In reality we are all just people just like you. We want more food, better jobs, and more money just like every one elss. Now i ask you very nicely stop with your verbal abuse of the UCC it makes you look bad. This statement goses for bombshoo to.
 
to Crezth

You are not a very nice man. With your racist veiws about communism and long winded speeches about how were are so bad. In reality we are all just people just like you. We want more food, better jobs, and more money just like every one elss. Now i ask you very nicely stop with your verbal abuse of the UCC it makes you look bad. This statement goses for bombshoo to.

Crezth + Bombshoo ≠ France + Republic of China
 
New England, we to are of the belief that all Communist shipping must be stopped, in order for this bloodshed to end. As a result, The Far East Battle Group has been deployed to the Swedish Colonies, and will be reinforced by the a significant portion of the Pacific Fleet. All Shipping will be subject to strict search conditions that traverse Swedish Water. If shipping is found to be destined to Communist China, the ship will be confiscated, and the crew detained. Force will be used to ensure that Swedish Ports and Territories are secure.
 
to Andy69in

I'm sorry you don't think me and crezth are very nice men. Next time I will try to be more considerate when giving speeches about the communist race. I didn't want to hurt the UCC's feelings, but they hurt mine first and made me cry. I also don't think you were are bad anymore. this statement goes for D'Artagnan59 to.
 
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