A Mafia Game taking place in the East [Game Thread - Concluded]

[spaceman98]

If spaceman had a roleblock this whole time that he hasn't been useing, what was he doing in the previous nights?

I have been using it. That, and getting roleblocked myself.

 

[Internet Flea]

My last comment of the game.

You're saying you think I'm lying about being blocked? Do you have a reason why I would do that?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RefugeInAudacity

I, however, can confirm that the samurai who blocked you last night is the same person who blocked Riedquat, me, and spaceman.

Zack and co. has been countering everything I say today, even when they know I'm speaking the truth. I would think if there were a town reason for this level of focus on me, and not Murska or Caelian, it would have been presented more straightforwardly. You should kill Zack and spaceman in the future, they're wolves.

Or don't. No difference to me anymore.

 

[Caelian]

And I'm back after a busy day. A few things:

Yes, I was roleblocked. I never really explicitly confirmed it but I figured my not denying it and acknowledging myself as the third candidate made it clear. So, sorry if I contributed to any confusion.

In case there is anything to the samurai faction idea, I was not roleblocked by a samurai. In fact, I was arrested and spent the night in jail. So unless someone wants to claim we have a corrupt police faction I would imagine one of the roleblockers at least is a good guy.

In case anyone wants to know, my target last night was KingMorgan. I'm not going to say more at the moment, though sadly I have been rather useless this game.

 

[Zack]

My last comment of the game.

Come on, don't be like that.

Zack and co. has been countering everything I say today, even when they know I'm speaking the truth.

The TV Tropes link was my way of saying "it's theoretically possible," not calling you a liar, lol. Never for a second thought you weren't roleblocked.

Can't believe you're still so convinced there are two samurai roleblockers, don't know what more I could possibly do to convince how wrong you are on that one - because you ARE wrong about it. Even if I am somehow wrong and you're right on that one, I still didn't "know" you were "speaking the truth." You jumping to conclusions based on flawed assumptions does not make something true, nor does it mean everyone else "knows" it to be true.

I would think if there were a town reason for this level of focus on me, and not Murska or Caelian, it would have been presented more straightforwardly.

You're complaining about people not being straightforward? If you really want the full rundown of why I've focused on you more , here it is:

Spoiler :

- Murska and Caelian have been silent. Harder to have a back and forth with them. It takes two to tango, after all.

- I've been suspicious, albeit nothing too serious, of you for longer than today. I was actually referring to you in this post. Reasons being you picked up on Double A's slip when no one else did (but didn't mention it until 3.5 days later), and SamSniped voted for you on Day 1 (mafia freaking love voting for their teammates Day 1), and your voting/posting was strange on Day 4. None particularly compelling by itself, but more than anything on Murska or Caelian.

- You've been accusing me and town power roles all day, based on some incredibly faulty logic. All Day, you've been calling me a lying scumbag. What, did you expect me to just ignore that? It seems like the kind of desperate ploy a mafiya would pull.

- For the first time in the game, there were no kills last night. Three people were roleblocked last night in a night with no kills, yet you've maintained that NONE of them should be lynched. It makes no sense, unless you feel that going after one of them would be an admission that you also deserve suspicion. Regardless, it's bizarre.

- You claimed vanilla, privately at least, and yet the samurai reported that his/her result PM indicated that (s)he blocked an action (i.e. that you weren't just sitting on your supposedly vanilla butt).

- You've taken every accusation against yourself personally, and insinuated that anyone suspecting you must be scum. In my experience, this is something mafia care more about, letting people know that their fools for lynching them and that doing so will doom the town cause. In short, scum care a lot more than townies about being suspected and/or lynched. You keep implying that the only reason the Night/Day could have played out this way is due to an elaborate frame job, but it doesn't make sense. Why would I frame you? You claimed vanilla, you've been viewed with mild suspicion, and most importantly - if my hypothetical scum team did want to eliminate you, why not just kill you and be done with it? Why frame you and choose not to kill anyone? The math doesn't add up. It's basically a fancy OMGUS.

So yeah, if you do end up being town after all, there were plenty of reasons. And when taken collectively, plus the fact that you were roleblocked on a night with no kills (more important than any point above), it's convincing enough for me to believe you are the likeliest mafiya.

Straightforward enough?

You should kill Zack and spaceman in the future, they're wolves.

I'll pass on that one.

Or don't. No difference to me anymore.

Come on, don't be like that. You're a fun person to play with - active and you have a decidedly unique style / way of thinking. Don't take it personally, I don't mean it that way, and I'm sure no one else does either.

 

[Zack]

Murska and Caelian have been silent. Harder to have a back and forth with them. It takes two to tango, after all.

The rare fifteen minute ninja. How embarrassing.

 

[Sprig]

Unvote; Vote Murska

For those that don't know. Think Murska = Sasaki

 

[Murska]

Apologies - been busy.

I am not in any shape, way or form evil or harmful to the Town in this game. I'll try and catch up today.

 

[Murska]

Okay, someone claims to have roleblocked me? I didn't get any notification about that. Not that I was doing anything, anyway, but my interpretation of other people's claims previously is that people are told if they're roleblocked even if they have no action.

 

[KingMorgan]

In case anyone wants to know, my target last night was KingMorgan.

I was your target for what? Death?

 

[Snerk]

Tally:

Murska 6 - (BSmith, Verarde, JoanK, Caelian, Snerk, Sprig)
Internet Flea 5 - (Zack, Spaceman98, KingMorgan, Riedquat, Remake20)
Spaceman98 1 - (Internet Flea)

Not voting 5 - (Legato Endless, JHT, WinterLilium, TFT, Murska)

Vote: Murska

Minor FOS on JohannaK:

I will vote on Murska. Although Internet Flea strikes me as more suspicious, I dont want a runaway wagon at this point.

This kinda looks like a typical scumvote.

Oh yeah. My night result informed me that the Yakuza have been eliminated.

I had a Yakuza scan. Now I'm functionally vanilla.

Again, this looks somewhat like a scumclaim.

 

[JohannaK]

BSmith, choxorn and Zack can attest to my claim from early on.

That doesnt mean I am exactly a vanilla townie, but with my power gone, I am functionally so. Except that my personal goal is to kill both Yakuza and Ninja only. No mention of the Mafiya.

 

[Riedquat]

Murska = sasaki?

Tally:

Internet Flea 5 - (Zack, Spaceman98, KingMorgan, Riedquat, Remake20)
Murska 5 - (BSmith, Verarde, JoanK, Caelian, Snerk)
Spaceman98 1 - (Internet Flea)

Not voting 5 - (Legato Endless, JHT, WinterLilium, TFT, Murska)

Vote: Murska

Minor FOS on JohannaK:


This kinda looks like a typical scumvote.


Again, this looks somewhat like a scumclaim.

You post doesn't look any better, you are flying under the radar... that is not good...

BSmith, choxorn and Zack can attest to my claim from early on.

That doesnt mean I am exactly a vanilla townie, but with my power gone, I am functionally so. Except that my personal goal is to kill both Yakuza and Ninja only. No mention of the Mafiya.

Your personal goal is to kill both Yakuza and Ninja? Who was the ninja? You've said your power is gone.... I'm confused

 

[JohannaK]

No, my power is not gone. You see, my character is a police officer expert in Yakuza (hence my Yakuza scan) and who also has to destroy the Ninja faction.

My power is useless now because there are no more Yakuza. I attempted scanning tonight and the result said that my superiors congratulated me in helping take out the Yakuza and to keep on hunting Ninja.

 

[Riedquat]

Oh.. I see now... it was clear in your previous post, I need glasses and an a new brain...

Btw, the above tally is wrong, Sprig vote on Murska is not being counted, if the rest is correct Murska is in the lead

 

[Snerk]

I stand corrected (said the man with the orthopedic shoe)

Fixed now.

 

[Legato Endless]

Hmmm.

Murska I guess, although I'm half inclined to accept that super brief explanation, I feel vaguely better about this than IF.

 

[Sprig]

So to sum up what i got so far from thread and elsewhere.

Two main antagonists? Ninjas and Yakuza. Kill on Alternative days. Third party Mafiya, and possible a forth party that kills everynight. Unless we think the Uzi/Katana is the Mafiya.

Murska, IF & Caelian were blocked. And there was no kill last night. If the above is correct, two killed were stopped and therefore two of the blocked suspects are guilty.

IF & Caelian confirm they were blocked. Murska does not.
Caelian claims an ability. Murska and IF do not.


Evidence has been put forward that suggest IF is lying about having an ability. Which is probably the strongest reason to test him first...

However Murska gives me pause with his slight backup of IF's Spaceman suspicions by claiming that he didn't notice spaceman's roleblock.

 

[spaceman98]

Okay, someone claims to have roleblocked me? I didn't get any notification about that. Not that I was doing anything, anyway, but my interpretation of other people's claims previously is that people are told if they're roleblocked even if they have no action.

So your saying you weren't roleblocked (I'm pretty sure my roleblock succeeded), but also saying that you didn't use an ability so there's no way to test your claim. Seems legit. unvote:vote:Murska

 

[Murska]

Well, I'm curious as to what the other suspicions against me are so that I might attempt to answer them, aside from spaceman claiming to have roleblocked me, which I can't provide any evidence either way for having never even heard of anything like that, and that there was no kill.

Spaceman98 is my vote, at any rate. Village won't have very many roleblockers - at most one, I'd say. We've got too many around. Also, are we sure there even is a Ninja team? Maybe there's a single Ninja? Seems like a lot of bad guys to me, otherwise.

If someone wants to roleblock me tonight, feel free to do so, and I will attempt to use my somewhat minor pro-Town ability that is unlikely to do much good either way.

 

[Zack]

Thought you didn't have an ability? Or were you just claiming inactivity?