A Mormon president ?

[Ramius75]

if USA legalize Polygamy, i will move over

 

[BvBPL]

When he was running the Commonwealth, we didn't see a lot of Mormonism from him. He's a smart guy, he's aware that many people view Mormons with suspicion. His answer when he was the governor was to not discuss it.

It seems likely that he would do the same on the national campaign trail. The difficulty lies in the fact that the Republicans rely heavily on the Religious Right, particularly in flyover country. A huge portion of Iowa's Republican electorate is part of that Religious Right. Those people can be skeptical of people who don't talk about their faith. So Mitt can either talk about it faith and alienate people who are skeptical of Mormons, or not talk about it, and alienate the Religious Right.

Of course, winning Iowa didn't allow Huckabee to win four years ago either. Maybe the Religious Right is just hot air now.

 

[amadeus]

Interesting having a Mormon running for president of the USA, if the bloke wins to whom does he owe his first loyalty , to the bosses of the Mormon church or to the USA ?
It seems all Mormons except those at the very top are expected to obey the Mormon church leaders.
It will be interesting to see the numbers of Mormons who become ambassadors etc.

Why do you ask about Mormons and not the blacks?

 

[Lovebird]

I don't think America's ready for a non-Christan president, to be honest.

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[SG-17]

Theres a reason why Christians are being genuinely opressed in the UK and its because they stand in opposition to the emptiness of modern society and the relativism that pervades the british society. Incidentally you hardly see such opression in any contemporaneous christian state.

If that is true than my opinion of the UK has risen considerably.



America needs an atheist President. We might actually get some common sense for once. Though probably not because in the end politics is politics.

 

[Jehoshua]

If that is true than my opinion of the UK has risen considerably.

And my opinion of you has substantially decreased.

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[TopGearFanatic]

If that is true than my opinion of the UK has risen considerably.



America needs an atheist President. We might actually get some common sense for once. Though probably not because in the end politics is politics.

We could definitely use some of your common sense to educate people on the difference between "than" and "then".

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[Communisto]

How are christians oppressed in the UK?

 

[TopGearFanatic]

How are christians oppressed in the UK?

I was wondering the same thing

 

[Communisto]

So... two obscure un-cited examples and we're supposed to believe that there exists an institutionalized repression of the British christian community? Despite the fact that no one who isnt some guy on the internet has ever seriously claimed such an absurdity.

 

[IglooDame]

@Scamp

only to one of your liberal relativist persuasion .

Your position could perhaps be a symptom of the ideological dictatorship where anyone who holds to absolute objective moral truth is declared oppressive or intolerant by the prevailing relativist society when the reality is that the inverse is true. Theres a reason why Christians are being genuinely opressed in the UK and its because they stand in opposition to the emptiness of modern society and the relativism that pervades the british society. Incidentally you hardly see such opression in any contemporaneous christian state.

Wait... A Christian sect is the official religion of the country. The monarch is the head of that church. Over half the population of the country claim to be Christian. And what percentage of the House of Commons labels themselves Christian, again? I get that you're unhappy about certain domestic policies, but to claim that it is oppression of Christians is simply goofy.

/threadjack

Mitt Romney has a pretty solid track record in Massachusetts of not being particularly beholden to Mormon church leadership (funny that it'd be the same state as JFK's when he was facing the same ill-thought questions except about Catholic church leadership) so Otago unless you're thinking that he's deliberately suppressing it pending his election a la some sort of Manchurian Candidate tactic, I think it's a non-starter of a point.

 

[Maniacal]

Christian in name only I would say. Furthermore im hardly claiming the government is systematically and intentionally persecuting christians, merely that societal discrimination is rife in the UK, a nominal state religion hardly precludes that.
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That is what persecution means, not a few cases of 'discrimination'.

 

[Jehoshua]

That is what persecution means, not a few cases of 'discrimination'.

discrimination hardly requires the government. India has no laws peresecuting christians and yet christians have faced pogroms where churches and villages have been burnt down by various extremists. This is persecution but it hardly involved the government. Thus societal persecution is rampant to a great degree (far more than britain) however there is no systematic and intentional governmental discrimination. Under your logic this would no longer be persecution which is clearly not the case.

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[bhsup]

This was a great little clip from 2008. He's just not interested in "running as a Mormon." He's running as an American. He's got this Protestant's vote in 2012 just like he got it in 2008!


Link to video.

 

[Lovebird]

I admire you for being so courageous as to support a non-Christian candidate. Most Americans are prejudiced and wouldnt. Thank you for being so open minded.

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[otago]

Have to smirk with the Catholic church ranting they should have the right to run an adoption service with their history with children.

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[Tani Coyote]

JFK, as was pointed out, had to undergo criticism for his faith.

But he diffused the greatest nuclear crisis ever, didn't he?

So, quite frankly, I couldn't give a damn about one's religious beliefs. I care about how the country will be run... and, if you're atheist yet can prevent nuclear Armageddon, so be it.

 

[Shylock]

Not as long as I can vote.

 

[Lone Wolf]

only to one of your liberal relativist persuasion .

Your position could perhaps be a symptom of the ideological dictatorship where anyone who holds to absolute objective moral truth is declared oppressive or intolerant by the prevailing relativist society when the reality is that the inverse is true.

I disagree with the premise that liberals are automatically relativists! You can support liberalism without subscribing to moral relativism!

 

[_random_]

Except for the fact that the public image of Mormons is that of an insane sect while Catholics in 1960 were, well, just Catholics.

I'm not totally familiar with the history of public perception of Catholics, but I'd hazard to guess that they're pretty comparable scenarios. There were a lot of people who suspected that Kennedy would be the Vatican's biatch, and he turned out all right. I'd have a lot of problems with Mitt Romney becoming president, but his religion isn't one of them. I'd vote for Downtown in a heartbeat.