A Petition to Merge NES-IOT

[Lord_Iggy]

As do I! Lucky is much better at arguing when he avoids ad hominem.

@Double A- I hope the headcanon gets transcribed into wordcanon soon so that the rest of us know what the heck Pokémon are doing in outer space.

 

[Tyo]

@luckymoose:
Fair enough point.




I think we should settle the Pokemon escapade in the thread where that's relevant.

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

T'is exceedingly rare, but when Double A puts effort into roleplay, it's downright scary in the good sense.

sorry, but can you give some concrete examples of what exactly you mean?

The specific incidents took place in games years ago and it'd take a dig on my part, but the posts by Luckymoose and spryllino in this thread are ready evidence. I don't dispute that NES and IOT lend themselves to different standards of verbosity, but I take issue with the charge that IOTers are somehow genetically incapable of adapting to either standard.

Okay, I have taken a look at "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, World", evidently one of the more RP-oriented IOTs, and putting it alongside Capto Iugulum, supposedly an NES with a lack of regard for "intellectualism or realism"...

False equivalence. Mad World & SilliNES 2 is a more accurate comparison.

 

[Double A]

I approve of the way this message is expressed.

I approve of the way this message is being expressed.

T'is exceedingly rare, but when Double A puts effort into roleplay, it's downright scary in the good sense.

Compliments are nice and I like them.

 

[Joecoolyo]

All this thread is making me want to do is play some IOT. Any IOT's like Iron and Blood going on right now?

 

[NinjaCow64]

All this thread is making me want to do is play some IOT. Any IOT's like Iron and Blood going on right now?

There's I&B 5

 

[Tee Kay]

All this thread is making me want to do is play some IOT. Any IOT's like Iron and Blood going on right now?

Now that you mention it...

(though I'm in the middle of reorganising things at the moment)

 

[GenMarshall]

You joined my NES and then never did anything.

CivGeneral tried to be anime humans.

Comments like this should shed some light as to why. I became turned off at comments like these and felt no desire to even participate since all I ever received was vitriol on my choices of species creation in the NES in question.

 

[Crezth]

There was also Thlayli's multi-thousand word history, which quite a few of us used to guide the creation of our states; I would call that backstory uncharacteristic of IOTs, as they tend towards the blank-slate method of nation creation.

People only used the backstory because they thought they had to.

 

[Tsoate]

blank-slate method of nation creation

It does seem a considerable heft of NES are exactly this. I don't think it can be levelled as an IOT descriptor. Are there no IOT with backgrounds at the beginning? Ok, not to the length of thousands, but even that is rare in NES. Certainly they have a setting.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

I play more IOT's than NES's...I've played a small number of NES' but I dont see why we must argue who is better or worse at X. Wouldn't it just be more efficient both for the mods and for us to put it into one basket called NES & IOT. If you dont like IOT, dont play it. If you dont like NES, dont play it. It'll just make it easier for people to check out eachothers games and for the mods to check in on the place. It WILL allow for the transfer of ideas and thoughts but it WILL not destroy uniqueness.

 

[NinjaCow64]

It does seem a considerable heft of NES are exactly this. I don't think it can be levelled as an IOT descriptor. Are there no IOT with backgrounds at the beginning? Ok, not to the length of thousands, but even that is rare in NES. Certainly they have a setting.

For most IOTs the background is something like "the cataclysm happened and all the nations changed". Players often write their own backgrounds, but more often than not they're not very extensive.

 

[Joecoolyo]

Now that you mention it...

(though I'm in the middle of reorganising things at the moment)

So could I still join? I can't tell if it had started or not.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

It does seem a considerable heft of NES are exactly this. I don't think it can be levelled as an IOT descriptor. Are there no IOT with backgrounds at the beginning? Ok, not to the length of thousands, but even that is rare in NES. Certainly they have a setting.

Our start is "The Happening".


Link to video.

[Happening intensifies]

 

[Tee Kay]

So could I still join? I can't tell if it had started or not.

I hasn't started. Though I'm limiting new players to picking one of the many NPCs now.

 

[Joecoolyo]

I hasn't started. Though I'm limiting new players to picking one of the many NPCs now.

Ah, gotcha.

I'll join later today

 

[ChiefDesigner]

People only used the backstory because they thought they had to.

First, this was debated in-thread at the time; you're confusing a vocal minority of three people with the rest of the playerbase.

Second, that's a lot of goalpost moving -- even if they thought they had to use the backstory, the fact remains that they did, and that remains a distinguishing feature

 

[Crezth]

Second, that's a lot of goalpost moving -- even if they thought they had to use the backstory, the fact remains that they did, and that remains a distinguishing feature

So we're meant to believe that IOTers join games without making any attempt to understand the context of the game they're joining? I mean, I know plenty of NESers who do exactly that, but I was unaware the IOTers were incapable of basic reading comprehension as rule in totum.

The players (not even all of them) used the backstory because I told them they had to. If I had not done so, it is not as likely they would have cared as much. The fact that I was inconsistent and wheedled on this issue says nothing about the nature of NESers so much as it speaks to my incompetence and desire to please Thlayli and myself at the same time.

I mean, CNES had a large playerbase and more updates than the average (over twice the average number of updates for all NESes that have ever existed). I don't consider it a failure this confusion notwithstanding. It was such a trivial concern in the big picture that this argument on your part seems like grasping at straws.

 

[Tyo]

Second, that's a lot of goalpost moving -- even if they thought they had to use the backstory, the fact remains that they did, and that remains a distinguishing feature

At least it would if a handful of IOTs have had and are currently utilizing back stories as a basic requirement to join. For modern examples, see: I&B5 and TGA already linked multiple times in this thread.

Also of major significance, people wrote up back stories for the game Mulipolarity 4(and all of its previous installments) even though it was never required. Although they often times were silly; MP never prided itself on realism or anything if the sort, back stories and role play was practiced in the game regularly.

And, in the newest IOT (RIOT), roleplay directly affects the world with events and the like.

 

[JollyRoger]

Perhaps these could both be merged with Archived Forums.