Originally posted by Alone
But that can be applied as well to a Patriarch in Constantinopolis (Istambul).
Not true, for the sole reason that Peter created a Roman Church, and the Patriarch in Constantiple was, well, in Constantinople.
Originally posted by Alone
But that can be applied as well to a Patriarch in Constantinopolis (Istambul).
hm.. now I'm not sure what do you think..Roman church or you think church of Roman Empire. If you think first I think that can be applied since at that time (of Peter) there were not Roman church with that name but simply Christianity. If you think of second Constantinopolis was in Roman Empire before it split on two.Originally posted by luiz
Not true, for the sole reason that Peter created a Roman Church, and the Patriarch in Constantiple was, well, in Constantinople.
Originally posted by Alone
hm.. now I'm not sure what do you think..Roman church or you think church of Roman Empire. If you think first I think that can be applied since at that time (of Peter) there were not Roman church with that name but simply Christianity. If you think of second Constantinopolis was in Roman Empire before it split on two.
...I think..
Originally posted by luiz
Christianism became the official religion of Rome during Constantine rule, in the 4th century. Sorry, bu this is common knowlegedge and you're way off.
Originally posted by simdlee
Peter would never claim to be a pope since this Jesus spoke so strongly againest this. " the scribes and the pharisees sit in Moses' seat ..." Chapter 23 of Matthew; this speech that Jesus made was his strongest amd toughest speech againest religious hypocrites. the Pope sits In Moses' Seat !!! this is why some churches refused to join the United Roman Church and was killed for being heretics. Also Jesus made it very clear not to call anyone father ( spiritually) .(remember it was the religious rulers who hated Jesus the most.)
Paul was the apostle to the gentiles not Peter since Paul was both a Jew and a Roman citizen. ( that why Paul ; roman name; is also called Saul ; his Jewish name) Peter wasn't comfortable with the gentiles like Paul was.
some Catholics trys to use matthew 16:18 to claims Peter was the rock which the church was built BUT Peter made it very clear in his own letter that he wasn't that rock but Christ . 1 Peter 2:5-8
The church is built on Peter's statement in matthew 16:16 NOT on Peter himself.
Originally posted by luiz
Jesus to Peter(in that time known as Simon)
"Simon, you are Peter(rock) and over that rock I shall build my Church".
let look at the full statement that Jesus made . ask yourself what is the mean topic Peter statement made in vs 16(Jesus is the Christ) or Peter himselfOriginally posted by luiz
Jesus to Peter(in that time known as Simon)
"Simon, you are Peter(rock) and over that rock I shall build my Church".
Now, are you calling Jesus a liar? Cause that would make a pretty lousy christian... j/k
My church is a "Bethesda" church, which is a Pentecostal denomination. I guess what makes it special is that it actually sticks to the bible, and doesn't compromise on the big issues, like so many other churches has done. (A church with a gay minister can no longer be considered a church IMO). It also allows for individual learning and questioning of doctrine etc. Encourages free thinking and to a large extent accepts differences of opinion. Our youth group is actually a very good place to debate beliefs etc. And that's why I like it, it addresses things that I need addressed.Originally posted by Hitro
Most of the religious people here are Christians, but as we all know there are many different denominations of that faith, probably getting more every year.
So my question to the Christians here is:
Which denomination of Christianity do you belong to and what distinguishes it from all the others, what makes it special?
hehe Baal. best god ever.Originally posted by The Iron Fist
I think I'm evangelic-lutheran. Though I'm really a devout follower of Baal.
Originally posted by calgacus
Well, I think the Patriarchate of Moscow is actually the last, in 1589.
Originally posted by archer_007
I think he was refering to the very old group.
yeah, everybody got some hang-up or two so it wise not to make a fuss about some areas like "tongues" . It more important to watch out for gossip which can really damage the church and other believers.Originally posted by bobgote
oh yeah, i do disagree with them on some things, most notably the 'tongues' thing that archer brought up. I think it's completely wrong, but hey, they can do that, so long as they don't try to make me conform
Originally posted by bobgote
My church is a "Bethesda" church, which is a Pentecostal denomination. I guess what makes it special is that it actually sticks to the bible, and doesn't compromise on the big issues, like so many other churches has done. (A church with a gay minister can no longer be considered a church IMO). It also allows for individual learning and questioning of doctrine etc. Encourages free thinking and to a large extent accepts differences of opinion. Our youth group is actually a very good place to debate beliefs etc. And that's why I like it, it addresses things that I need addressed.
oh yeah, i do disagree with them on some things, most notably the 'tongues' thing that archer brought up. I think it's completely wrong, but hey, they can do that, so long as they don't try to make me conform
yup.Originally posted by archer_007
My church structure is similar to yours. Works nicely in my experience. Except Im a Baptist instead of a Pentecostal.
Tongues make little to no sense and most of the people doing it are liars. They are not able to tell you what they said, altothough scripture clearly notes that if more then two people hear it, someone in the rooms is suppost to be able to translate. Also, they almost all use the same words.