a realistic solution for the Middle East

[Lord Baal]

Despite the biased OP, and the fact that this doesn't really belong in History, I'll give my opinion. The problems in the Middle East will end when both sides recognise that they've committed wrongs in the past, stop inciting more hatred, and bloody wake up to themselves and end the cycle of hate.

Oh, and when the apocalypse happens. That'll solve it.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Europe Invades the Middle East and Establishes Christianity as the reigning power in the holy land.

 

[SG-17]

A realistic solution is A) Glassing the place B) Israel taking over every Arab country or destroying all of their military forces and let their people see without a fog of radicalism for once in their lives. Let them see how much better life is in the West, make them want that, make them angry at their government. Make their governments become afraid of their people.

 

[Dodge_272]

I can find one...

 

[Lord Baal]

A realistic solution is A) Glassing the place B) Israel taking over every Arab country or destroying all of their military forces and let their people see without a fog of radicalism for once in their lives. Let them see how much better life is in the West, make them want that, make them angry at their government. Make their governments become afraid of their people.

Israel couldn't take over every Arab country, and if they did they'd hardly be likely to treat said Arabs well. They haven't exactly been nice to the West Bank or Gaza. More likely, they'd actually promote extremism by treating the occupied population rather shabbily.

 

[Joecoolyo]

Israel couldn't take over every Arab country, and if they did they'd hardly be likely to treat said Arabs well. They haven't exactly been nice to the West Bank or Gaza. More likely, they'd actually promote extremism by treating the occupied population rather shabbily.

Nah.... I'm pretty sure Israel is capable of taking over every Arab country, its just the occupation which might prove hard to do

 

[ParkCungHee]

Nah.... I'm pretty sure Israel is capable of taking over every Arab country, its just the occupation which might prove hard to do

They had trouble with a Lebonese Paramilitary...

 

[Dachs]

Philip Graves?

Yeah, say it out loud. Sounds like he's an assassin.

 

[Lord Baal]

Nah.... I'm pretty sure Israel is capable of taking over every Arab country, its just the occupation which might prove hard to do

They couldn't even beat Hezbollah, as previously mentioned. How the hell are they going to take over Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, and Yemen? And that's by the least inclusive definition of "Arab countries," not taking into account Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Sudan, etc.. If you think Israel could take over all of these nations, then I have a Nazi UFO I'd like to sell you.

 

[SG-17]

You listed Yemen twice.

 

[BananaLee]

Once upon a time, there were TWO Yemens

 

[Lord Baal]

Once upon a time, there were TWO Yemens

You stole my excuse.

 

[Verbose]

As for the OP: Probably a Marshall plan for the Mid East to get it out of the present rut.

 

[RedRalph]

The various Arab actors will have to recognise Israel's existence, its not going anywhere. and Israel will have to give Palestinians their own state and stop treating them like dirt.

 

[Hafezudine]

Hmmm.... this is a very biased look at things (I can tell because of your use of the word "liberated")... and the truth is, that there is no realistic solution. Maybe sometime im the future when people begin to accept things like Israel isn't going away and such, but for now, nothing. Trying to find a solution to this is like trying to find a solution to China and Tibet, or North Korea and South Korea, India and Pakistan etc. etc.

i use liberated Sinai and Golan, because they were taken by israeli forces, while it was part of Egypt and Syria perior 1948!!

 

[Hafezudine]

1. Israstine
2. Annexation of Shia Iraq, Qatar, Lasha, and Bahrain into Iran, Iraqi Sunni state into Syria, Iraqi Kurd state
3. 2 state solution
4. Annexation of Nagarno-Karabah into Armenia. Azerbaijan annexed to Iran.

Behold I have solved them all!

haha... ok, shia iran i understand, but why qatar and bahrain?

 

[Hafezudine]

They couldn't even beat Hezbollah, as previously mentioned. How the hell are they going to take over Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, and Yemen? And that's by the least inclusive definition of "Arab countries," not taking into account Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Sudan, etc.. If you think Israel could take over all of these nations, then I have a Nazi UFO I'd like to sell you.

LMAO...

i have an american friend who always use to tell me that if the arabs decide to spit in israel they will make a flood their, which will devastate their lands...

you know Israeli population 6 million (including 1 million arabs) while Arab population is now almost 400 million, third largest ethnicity, exceeded only by Han-Chinese and Hindu Indians...

plus Arab weapons united would be too strong for any country (perhaps excluding USA) to beat... with around 46 million men, and around 200 thousand tanks and thousands of plans that were brought from the Americans, and russians and Japanese and germans...

Arabs are divided into several countries, the poor ones are very well trained fighters but have no technology, while the rich are very advanced, yet poor fighters.. put them bot together, and they would rerule from France to China again.

 

[Karalysia]

haha... ok, shia iran i understand, but why qatar and bahrain?

There are significant Shia populations in those areas and historical Iranian claims. I'm also adding Kuwait, Yemen, Azerbaijan, and Herat to that list.

 

[cardgame]

Arab weapons united would be too strong for any country (perhaps excluding USA) to beat... with around 46 million men, and around 200 thousand tanks and thousands of plans that were brought from the Americans, and russians and Japanese and germans...

(((COUGH COUGH COUGH sixdaywar COUGH COUGH))) *HICCUP*

 

[Hafezudine]

The various Arab actors will have to recognise Israel's existence, its not going anywhere. and Israel will have to give Palestinians their own state and stop treating them like dirt.

the way i see it is the following...

Arab-Israeli conflict:

Arab states have started forming this Economic Unity thing started in 1997 and was suppose to meet the goal of having a freetrade area by 2010 (achieved 2007), a new united currency is underway, starting with gulf states by 2015.

thus will lead to Arab prosperity, thus more democracy, thus better Arab representation of govs.

Israel on the other hand, has two scenarios, will either have an Arab majority by 2020, which will make the Israeli government (that cant be ruled by non-jews) more flexible to accept Palestinian issues, thus making peace easier, or the Orthodox Extermist Jews of Israel, who are becoming more of a majority will increase, and will lead Israel to adopt more extreme politics, which will probably lead to a total war with neighboring Arabs, which they believe that Palestinians must be kicked out of their lands, and go to any other country, while some even go as far as calling for kicking all arabs from Sinai to Iraqi borders.

anyways, regardless of the future expectation, the solutions as i see it is:

*Arab Palestinian State in West Bank and Gaza strip (including E. Jerusalem).
*Jewish Israeli State in the rest of the land or Palestine (including W. Jerusalem).
*Arab, Muslim and African states formalize economic and political relations with Israel.
*Palestinian Refugees who have lived or born in pre-Israel state (pre1948) can go back to their homes, while everyone else who was born outside 1948 palestine can't, yet can freely go their but not get a citizenship.
*Israel must retreat from all lands it occupied, including Sheba'a Farms in Southern Lebanon, and the Golan Heights.
*Israel's Integration in the Arab League, and its acceptance as a Member in the Arab League, (which will assure peace in the region.)